Posts Tagged ‘Old Testament’

Christ was not Communist, or a Crony Capitalist Either, BUT…

December 8, 2013

This is a shout-out to
http://politicallyunclassifiable.blogspot.com/2013/10/christ-was-not-communistbut-he-wasnt.html

…which the author says is an answer to:
http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/blog/2013/07/christ-was-not-a-communist/

The truth is, they both seem to be wrong. The “Orthodoxy Today” seems reluctant to take the Biblical truths that they do glimpse to its proper conclusions. The “answer to it” also misses the logical conclusions from scripture.

I’ll say right out what they both miss are the implications of two principles, also enshrined in the Ten Commandments, and expanded by Jesus Christ himself. For the purposes of addressing government-enforced redistribution, take your pick: Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, and the Golden Rule, often paraphrased as Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

The confusion for most people today stems from a strong “tradition of men” that in their minds has confused their thinking. Confused mine in times past.

What confuses them is automatically thinking of government as an inescapable necessity, without actually thinking very much about the premise itself.

you cannot reform the physical, absent fear, without reforming the spiritual. [sic]

That’s true but is a dance around the issue. Granted it is a dance begun by the orthodoxytoday essay, but there is also truth that the difference between “spirit” and “flesh” is a Biblical one.

There are precedents for a certain amount of govt. intervention and
controls and the charity of the OT was MANDATORY, the third year
tithe went to the poor, the edges of croplands were not to be harvested
but left for the poor, ditto going over one’s fruit trees more than once,
and the tither on the third year was required to make an accounting to
the elders and public to be sure he had in fact done this.

Yes, this is true, but please note the important part that relates to the role of any government in this picture. The “charity” of the Old Testament was mandatory, a commandment to the lawful believers. I like to mention this as an example of the many things in the actual laws of Moses that show that it was very much favorable to the poor, the innocent, the unfairly accused, and so on.

The description there of the “third-year accounting” is a bit more than is in the passages. I have read through the whole Torah, but don’t have it memorized and had to search for the “third year” passage. It is there, but the “‘accounting” is to GOD HIMSELF, not an earthly governmental intermediary, not even the priests, although I will grant that the whole chapter might lend itself to such an interpretation, though “thus saith the Bible” is too strong for it. But this is a quibble next to the important point here.

Those with lands and harvests were indeed commanded to leave some behind, enough for the poor that would come and pick it up behind them.

Punishment to enforce? risk of loss of God‘s protection and famine,
disease and foreign invasion as a result.

Yes, that’s right, but again, God did not order some earthly group to carry this out. In fact, David said his enemies were “God’s sword”, because they were used by God to carry out his judgments.

In fact, today in current events we see God using the enemies of the body of Christ, and the enemies of those who invoke his name (not always the same people), using them to enforce judgments against his house. “Judgment must begin in the house of God:” (1 Peter 4:17).

Now, another question is, just what DOES help the poor? Sure, there
is an issue of proper use of funds by govt. but the same is true of
private charitable organizations. Discernment is necessary. But if
everyone on food stamps or SSI suddenly had to depend on churches
and Salvation Army, you can count on it those systems would go
bankrupt.

No you can NOT “count on it those systems would go bankrupt”. You have no way of knowing that, you cannot say that with any certainty except for the indoctrination we’ve been subjected to in the recent generations of the rise of the welfare state.

In fact, history needs a revision to counter the revision we’ve been taught. Editors revise manuscripts to make them better, and history books need editors that know their facts better in some cases, and are more intellectually honest in other cases, and in more instances, editors and writers that are just not so lazy.

The abuses of child labor in the 18th century, for example, that we learned about, were actually the ones mostly committed by government child centers.

And the real problem when you look closely, is not so much big govt., as big business that OWNS the govt. and runs it.)

But the problem when business “owns” the government is the fact that a government uses force, using the threat of confiscations and prison against its victims. If a government official sells the services of such force, then I see there are two problems that have nothing to do with what the business does, and another problem with what the business does. That’s three.

One, the government official is selling the service of force against others. If force is not involved, the business would have no need for government intervention. That means legislators too.

Two, the fact that a government can force its subjects to obey under penalty of several means of coercion.

Three, the business pays for these coercions, with the exception of the tit-for-tat type corruption that government officials or politicians threaten, so as to extort “campaign contributions”. This is known as “rent-seeking”. It is a way to benefit from the monopoly of force inflicted upon the rest of us through the use of force.

In fact, I have read cases studies of legislators proposing legislation that will reduce revenues for a particular company or industry, then “campaign contributions” are made to those legislators and they get visits by the lobbyists and the legislation goes away.

Bill Gates and Microsoft gave almost nothing to political campaigns before the anti-trust trials, for example, but were very generous afterward…

Another problem is the repeal of the parts of Glass-Steagall

That was a favor to certain interests, for sure.

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL.

The problem with the welfare state, the problem with any government giving anything at all to anybody, is that for a government to give anything, it has to rob it from somebody else.

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL.

Christians that follow Christ truly do have an obligation to help the poor. In fact, everyone should. But you cannot saying you are helping the poor if you rob your neighbor to help another neighbor. You are just making yourself feel better.

The same thing applies whether you get a Mafia boss to do it, Theft Incorporated, or your local mayor or governor or president. It does not matter if you get a mob of 51% of the population in your area to vote for somebody to hire armed men to rob some of the people so as to give other people the proceeds.

Even if you vote for yourself to be among the “victims”, it does no good, because you are an accessory to the theft where the victims are the unwilling “donors” who are not donors but victims of theft now.

At this point many readers coming across this as a new concept are getting mental protests that government is necessary for lots of things. I thought so too at first, but it is a discussion to have.

BIBLICALLY

There was mention of the laws of Moses and mandates for the poor. Note that when the people of Israel asked for a real government, though, God told Samuel that they had rejected God, not Samuel.

1 Samuel 8:6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the Lord.

7 And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

Now we all are taught in Sunday School or by preachers that Jesus said “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s and unto God that which is God’s”, when he was asked about taxes by the Pharisees and Sadducees that sought to trick him into condemning himself or making himself unpopular.

But let us see what Jesus really thought about anybody who imposed any taxes on anybody

Matthew 17:24 And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?

25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?

26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.

27 Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.

The kings of the earth (those who tell the rest of us to pay taxes) do not pay those taxes themselves, and do not impose them on their own children, but on “strangers”.

And don’t forget what he did to the people that controlled the currency exchanges of the day, and their false balances. Imagine what he would to to the Fed:

John 2:14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:

15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables;

Imagine what he will eventually do upon his return to those “kings” that have robbed the poor and middle class with their fiat currency and money devaluation, and the false balance of a fiat currency, and through their devious legislation passed with a false balance (lies) of saying it’s for the poor but are not.

Better they leave us alone. Government is just a bigger Mafia than the rest of them. Sometimes it’s a kinder, gentler Mafia but whenever they tell you they want to help you, reach for your pocketbook. (And whatever you have to defend yourself with).

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For real, Cal Thomas?

February 17, 2013


Famed pediatric neurosurgeon
Dr. Ben Carson

Cal Thomas thinks the “Presidential Prayer Breakfast” is not a proper place to preach politics at the president, like he says Ben Carson did.

Seriously?

Obama uses every occasion  for his own political points.The field of respecting the proper forum has been dead for a long time, and it is no longer an even playing field. A rich elite class is confiscating the wealth and political machinery of the nation and the traditional means of propaganda have been subverted by them for their own purposes. Dictators always claim they’re doing the best thing for the poor and powerless while robbing them, jailing them, poisoning them.

Of course with your syndicated column, Cal, you might claim that the media is not tilted against real world vision because they often publish a letter to the editor. Can you be so naive?

It is time people who can see the catastrophe rushing toward the country from idiotic policies that have nothing to do with “politics” like the UNFAIR idea of different taxes for different people (that’s UNEQUAL treatment under the law), or the education disaster caused by the government-enforced government de facto monopoly on indoctrination of the poor.

Of course they may say it should be apolitical. In view of the media “self”-censorship blackout of conservative thought by our dark-skinned neighbors, Ben Carson decided to step out of the propaganda-handled media spin on his talk and on the prayer breakfast, and refuse to be the “house you-know-what”, played for his color. His color with his open Christian beliefs in fact made him a political choice that favored Obama in the first place.

IT’S NOT THE FIRST time, Cal, either. Mother Theresa blasted the entire Washington DC establishment and the nation to Bill Clinton’s face at this Prayer Breakfast, asking how a nation can call itself civilized or peaceful when it is waging war on the children.

Assaulting our children, dividing them from their parents, bankrupting the country and starving the poor as this regime’s actions are doing, these are not “political” issues.

And like the kings of the Old Testament, this president –and the nation– does not need a polite “feel-good” message, but a stern prophetic warning from those who care about others. Ben Carson refused to behave and call it “civil disobedience” if you want, but if this breaks through the Lapdog Media filter, more power to him.

Why Jews should Support Ron Paul: from a Jewish settler:

March 18, 2012
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Why Jews should Support Ron Paul:
http://settlersofsamaria.org/jews-should-support-ron-paul/

The reason his statements don’t bother me all that much are that even though he’s wrong, I know full well that he doesn’t hate or love Israel. He really just doesn’t care and doesn’t want anything to do with it or my problems. And I don’t WANT him to care or have anything to do with it either, so Lew and I basically agree. I want to be independent, I don’t want any charity, and I want to take care of my own problems in Israel.

Why Jews should support Ron Paul (from a Jewish settler who lives in “Samaria“):
http://settlersofsamaria.org/jews-should-support-ron-paul/?utm_source=BlogGlue_network&utm_medium=BlogGlue_Plugin

The worst thing Israel can possibly do for itself is to continue to take foreign aid from America. Aside from any other of Paul’s positions, his ending foreign aid would be the best thing for Israel since…I don’t know…sliced pita. There are three reasons for this. The first, and least important, is economic. The second, more important reason is psychological, which perpetuates the middle east conflict. The third, and most important, is moral. Let us deal with the least important first.

I think Bible prophecy indicates that it will not end very well for Israel, but clearly America should step back. The world today is NOT the Old Testament world, where nations are blessed for making peace with King David or leaving Israel alone. Besides, we are living in a post-Christian, even pagan nation that is just beginning its persecution against Biblical Christians and where we have rulers that promote apostasy world-wide, and promotes theft by majority.

How can God bless a nation or a culture that allows such rulers?

How can God bless a nation where even the leaders that call themselves “Christians” say nothing about the money changers at the Fed that have made our economy into a den of thieves and vipers?