Taki Mag says A&E dirty trick is (“just”?) a publicity stunt

The takimag article is here.

It’s an unlikely event, though, unless the idea was to subtly promote an LGBT-friendly brand among the lucrative “gay market” for the long term.

Maybe some execs there have seen the future coming with an officially sanctioned persecution of Bible-believers that will rival those of Rome at least, if not the much worse mass murders of same under leftist and fascist regimes in the 20th century and continuing today, to follow on the heels of the censorship of speech favoring Jesus Christ out of government.

Right on, except that there is a little more to this story, “this story” being A&E’s duplicity and hypocrisy and according to this story, simply pulling a PR stunt. In spite of some independent souls actually producing spiritually and culturally healthy fare from there, the figurative Hollywood “establishment” cares more about muzzling criticisms of its orgiastic contortions, than it does about the money you know they want.

In March 2013 they had already apparently requested the Duck folks accept cutting out the “Jesus” word or bleeping it out. The producer of the show apparently once did a “gay porno” thing.

So we can safely conclude that they treated at least one gay with enough respect to work together with him for many months (years?) on this show.

What this takimag article also misses is also that the “martyr” description is not just part of a nefarious A&E plan, unless they gambled on successfully getting Jesus actually expunged from the show. Or, put it this way, dilute the Christian witness by getting the “patriarch” out and the rest of them eating humble pie.

This has been happening all over Hollywood for a generation or two already and has been creeping into the rest of society as well.

A&E got exposed naked in the snow with this trick, for sure. (Who owns A&E, by the way?) Be it a PR trick, or a trick to throw Phil Robertson “under the bus”, they shot themselves in the foot.

But this is part of the “ethnic cleansing” that certain Christ-haters are doing throughout the country. The haters hate Christ and cannot stand that word “sin” next to actual “sins”, even though Christians can insist “I’m a sinner like anybody else just like you”.

Revelations 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

² With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

³ So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

⁴ And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

⁵ And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

⁶ And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

⁷ And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

⁸ The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

⁹ And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

¹⁰ And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

¹¹ And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

¹² And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

¹³ These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

¹⁴ These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

¹⁵ And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

¹⁶ And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

¹⁷ For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

¹⁸ And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

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God heals and does miracles

From another forum I responded to the following comment:

“…about the parents who relied upon faith healing for their daughter’s diabetes is meant to link all religious people with the few who are irresponsible and foolish.”

One respected doctor in Miami Florida said once: “If you knew like I did how doctors experiment with their patients you’d never go to one again. They try one thing then another.”

I also have personally known folks whose kids were indeed healed after a prayer of faith. One healed from a lifetime allergy when he joined a missionary work. Another who came to faith in Jesus Christ who was a heavy heroin addict and immediately quit and joined as a youth missionary in our work who had ZERO withdrawal negatives, simply sleeping it off in 20 hours. Two former co-workers fellowship in meetings led by a neurosurgeon who came to Christ after his daughter was healed from a very bad condition when two visitors asked to pray for her. A pastor documented in a book how he was going home after a meeting, had a very bad accident, was declared dead by the paramedics for five full hours, during which after fervent prayer by “brethren” and wife and family, woke up.

But there’s more. The next link is a youtube testimony about a Nigerian pastor who was declared dead by two different doctors, embalmed by a funeral director, but risen after three days dead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmKRenk9czs

Next is a book about not exactly a healing, but a miracle, how one 300-pound man survived the (still) greatest aviation disaster in history, the March 27, 1977 crash in Tenerife of the Canary Islands. When the flames started rushing back in the cabin, he stood up, held his Bible up and front, and shouted “I’m standing on the Word! I’m standing on the Word!” and blacked out briefly. He found himself sitting atop the plane next to a hole that had opened up in the plane directly above his seat.

There are more lessons in the book about the way people die, depending on how they live, including a comparison between the way each of the pilots spoke out during their last few seconds, caught on the recorders.
Terror at Tenerife: The Inside Story of History’s Worst Airline Disaster and It’s Miracles of Rescue, published by Bible Voice, Inc., Van Nuys, CA.
http://www.amazon.com/Terror-Tenerife-Canary-Islands-Crash/dp/B0028VHPCA

I listened to Norman William’s audio many years ago. The next link is Norman William’s own testimony, on youtube, with some graphics support.

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Atheism, Abortion, Euthanasia, Christianity, Respect for Life

I used to be an atheist as a young collegiate, but determined to keep an open mind to find the truth whatever it was, I followed science, history, and logic to discover that the Bible was true. For that reason, I am strongly against any coercion of believers.

Believing on Christ is not necessary for living peacefully with your neighbors but it helps you do so if you really believe you will have to answer in this life and the next to a God of love that requires it.

Romans 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.”

But an atheist can follow the laws of love better than a Christian in some cases. It’s easier for them if:

#1 They are raised in a culture with a post-Christian legacy from prior generations of respect for the neighbor (noise about the “bad” old days are greatly exaggerated)

#2 They are not raised in a pagan culture like pre-Christian cultures (Even Charles Darwin rebuked an anti-Christian comment in a British paper, explaining how ALL world travelers having to drop anchor off a remote Pacific island felt relief if they saw a steeple of a Christian church. “Whew! We won’t BE dinner tonight”.)

#3 They were NOT raised under an oppressive dictatorship of official atheist government and without clandestine Christian influence. A former fellow employee of mine had helped the Ukraine transition to more of a free market economy. The Russian mafia was much more ruthless than the gangs from other places because they were trained in godless atheism.

Now with the decline of Christianity and the other monotheistic beliefs in the West we already see a decline in the respect for earthly life. Christians are more likely to be pro-life not because of their “religion” directly, but because the philosophy of respect for life is external to their own determinations. It’s much harder to commit prenatal infanticide if you know you are accountable to a real God, it’s easier if you can make up what’s good in your own eyes. When you already believe in a real God you can’t see with your eyes but you know he exists the same way you know that the invisible wind is something real, then it’s harder to claim a baby that looks the same outside and inside the womb is not a baby if you can’t see it, or it’s not breathing.

If you love someone, you don’t always do what they ask for so they’ll feel better about themselves. Proverbs 27:6 says ” Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” The foremost champions of aiding self-euthanasia, assisted suicide, they know it is no help to the victim. Anybody who is sick, if you love them you will seek to build their morale, you won’t affirm their desires to die. When I was a teen I told my uncle I wanted to die and he encouraged me. Later on he tried it himself, but failed, and shortly after that he married a very good lady that loved him and raised children with him, including a beautiful daughter.

The main problem in at least the majority of cases is the interference of government in such highly personal decisions. I don’t want my family to spend millions or even tens of thousands on me if I get to need such huge treatment just to stay alive, but err on the side of life, always. If the government does not pay for such treatments there would be fewer chances for controversy. I do not have the right to take your money, even if it’s tax money, even if it’s deceitful fiat currency, for my million-dollar treatment.

But actively causing my own death? Don’t think so. Actively assisting my wife to die. No way Jose!

But these are only examples of where the rubber meets the road, and where a post-Christian society starts breaking down into a society that has less respect for life.

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“Christian Right” and “Christian Left”

Jesus said to heal the sick, comfort the broken-hearted, set the captives free. The “fundamentalist Christian Right” have been doing this for 2,000 years WITHOUT STEALING A SINGLE DIME BY THE FORCE OF THE GUN OF THE LAW. You do NOT get ANY moral credit for sending IRS agents out by the thousands to make sure you TAKE WITHOUT SPECIFIC PERMISSION all the stuff you use for “good” things. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

The Neo-cons and “Christian Zionists” –Pharisees of this generation– indeed have left off following the Two Greatest Commandments, following Israel into denying what Jesus said: “I am the way, the truth and the life; No man cometh to the Father but by me”. Jesus said this to the same Pharisee sect that today gets special privilege in Israel –founded by godless, SECULAR and socialist Zionists, by the way.

Neither the Christian Media Establishment of today, NOR the leftist Sojourner-type Establishment Christians, are following Christ’s teachings. One is into stealing from their neighbors in the name of the sacred “majority vote” for the WARfare state, the other is into stealing from their neighbors in the name of the sacred “majority vote” for the WELfare state, and the only true recipients of all this largess in the end is either the military-industrial complex on the one hand, or the government-media-corporate complex on the other.

While they give out crumbs to keep the poor happy (crumbs they steal from the middle class) and cry “Let them eat cake!” in the imperial capital of D.C., they swear allegiance to both the “safety net” and the Constitution. But there is no safety net except for the winners in the wheeling and dealing in our Imperial occupiers’ capital.

Along come people making off with the “Christian” label who obviously do not care to “search the Scriptures, to see if these things be so”.

These are the “Christians” who see the robbery victim on the side of the road and pass by. Instead of carrying the poor guy to the inn and promising “I” will repay like the Good Samaritan, they rob the next guy to come along to pay for the first guy. Good innovators with good ideas and good business ethics like Tucker are left in ruins because they expose the whole sordid fraud of “welfare”.

While the cold-hearted “religious right” pours out tithes and of their abundance to get there first after Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Andrew and around the world to help the helpless, the oh-so-warm-hearted caring “liberals” are very liberal with their NEIGHBOR’s fruits of somebody Else’s labor, stealing as much as it takes to “help” rich politicians get richer off the backs of the poor man’s vote. They want even more –like Ron Paul said it– so they can “steal from the poor in rich countries to give to the rich in poor countries”, and call it “helping”.

And until Ron Paul, not many people paid attention to the money changers who are committing Grand Theft Inflation, robbing the resources right out from under the housewife’s grocery money to spend it on their own interests.

If you can only get your money by stealing it in taxes (taking without asking) or by printing money (exchanging your dollar’s value for a dollar of less value without having to bother getting shot back like the BURGLAR they are), then you are NOT obeying Christ, you are leaving the poor guy on the side of the road for a good Christian SAMARITAN like in the story Jesus told or David Livingston or Mother Theresa to help undo your damage to the poor.

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‘Open hostility’ to Christians in U.S. military

http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/open-hostility-to-christians-in-u-s-military/

Michael “Mikey” Weinstein, the head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, is trying to “spiritually rape” all Christians, but he’s just starting in the military forces of the USA. It looks like he has the cooperation of at least a few Pentagon insiders.

Stalin should be so lucky. No doubt this same guy has the same words to say about Joe McCarthy, whom the “leftists” made poster boy for beating up on anti-communists. He wanted to purge the State Department and the military forces of Communists. Now comes Weinstein and wants to purge them all of Christians. The Soviet bloc tyrants fulfilled his dream. The result is that atheists were also the worse off under those ideological dictates, and Christianity thrived as it did under the persecutions of the Romans throughout history.

Who wants to stop free speech and leave atheists to be the only ones who can proselytize openly in the US Armed Forces?

Who is it that wants to ban people from bringing Bibles for patients that might want them at Walter Reed Army Medical Center?

It is this wannabe tyrant, who wants to stamp out Christianity.

Here’s news for you, guy. Removing Christians from the US Army might be the best thing that could happen to those Christians, getting them out of the way of the judgments of God that are going to come back on the heads of the nation that forgot God.

If this little wannabe Antichrist or his cohorts read this, they’ll go into indignant fits, how can you say those things, and others will be alarmed.

Hear what The “voice of the Lord” said to Ezekiel after he saw “Ezekiel’s wheel“:

Ezekiel 3:17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.

18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

21 Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.

Christianity will not be wiped out at all. In fact, the very existence of what Jesus Christ himself called “The Elect” stands between the judgments coming on the world, and the annihilation of “all flesh”.

Sure, Christ‘s followers at some point will appear to be defeated, but that’s at the end of the very short rule of the Antichrist, “after the Tribulation of those days” (Matthew 24).

“He shall come to his end, and none shall help him.” Daniel 11:45)

 

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The Crusades, Terrorism and the Middle East

The Crusades were an effort to take BACK by force that which had been taken by FORCE by Islamic conquest.
Wars are brutal and what’s missed in that is (1) the Crusades were opposed by many Christians of the day, including (2) St. Francis of Assisi, who brokered a peace between the two sides on one occasion.

The Inquisition was run by a *political* hierarchy that used the name of Christ for cover, just as today in the West the most vile of corrupt rulers use “democracy” as a cover, and a tyrannical Hugo Chavez used “majority vote” –and even God– as a cover (never mind the fraud).

How can anybody call the Inquisition period a “Christian” thing when a central issue was to BAN THE BIBLE AND BURN ITS ADVOCATES as witches? An identity thief can call himself anything. Kris Kringle or Santa Clause by any other lying name, no matter how much you paint lipstick on that pig.

Recently one Anders Behring Breivik shot 77 peaceful –and unarmed– campers dead in Norway (the first one was the only one armed security man) had advocated “Christian” culture on his web site. As soon as they saw the word “Christian”, CNN ran a feed at the bottom of the screen for hours on end, days, that said “Christian fundamentalist” — a criminally negligent and slanderous accusation against a great number of peaceful Christian fundamentalists. Because on the same web site where they got the word “Christian”, the shooter said that he did NOT believe the Bible and he did NOT believe in Jesus. CNN shows itself again to be “fundamentally” bigoted against the name of Jesus Christ.

It is also a sign of truncated thinking and anti-Christ bigotry to equate Christian and Islamic holy books or actions. Even militant Islamists –as they are painted in the Western media image of them–are no doubt offended at this irrational equivalency-by-monotonous-repetition equivalency meme. Atheists who do not have the need to invent such contortions, are appalled by this too. The worst horrors of history were done by officially and enforced atheist regimes that banned all religious faiths from any public expression.

In one of them, both the central figure (Christ) laid down his life to the death for unbelievers at the beginning, and millions of his followers have done the same since. In the other, the founding figure laid down the lives of unbelievers at the beginning, and 100s of thousands, maybe millions, of his followers have done the same thing since.

Most Muslims want to live in peace, and support their families. I have cultivated close friendship with Muslim co-workers, and we have talked about the principles of our faiths without even raising our voices. Many Muslims risk beheading for accepting Jesus Christ as risen Savior and many Christians risk beheading in many parts of the world for being Christians.

“Terrorism” is a very broad category of tactics used by small groups to leverage such tactics where the proponent is otherwise weak in power.We see the “blowback principle” take effect when the people targeted by such actions become enraged.

The unconstitutional undeclared “war against terrorism” was a Newspeak tactic to propel the U.S.A. and the world into a permanent state of war. All the easier to take away the “freedoms” that “they” supposedly hate us for. It all too easily expands into asking the subjects of the rulers to tell authorities about anybody who “hates the government”. We have seen this movie before.

Michael Scherer said it well, something like, They’re not over here because we’re free to enjoy a few beers at night, they don’t like us bombing and invading them. Nobody can accuse Mr. Scherer of gullibility. He was the head of the team that sought Osama bin Laden all those years and set it up for the next team to find him. I doubt he is portrayed in the Hollywood movie about the search.

He has explained many times in media interviews the established principle of “blowback”, a term often used within the CIA for such a phenomenon, where your actions have reactions. This is *NOT* a “blaming America” thing.

Who decided to bomb and invade over there? Was there ever any debate in Congress, as constitutionally required in the U.S., about a declaration of war? Was it “America”, or was it America’s rulers?

Was there ever a debate in Congress over whether to declare war on Libya? Or did America’s *rulers” decide to send in military force (Special Forces) on the ground while denying it? When the “rebels” began losing, who decided to bomb the crap out of Libyan government forces?

There were lots of talking heads that declared Gaddafi was murdering civilians. But the best evidence of massacre of civilians are the pictures of the town that is no more, obliterated, its inhabitants wiped out and “cleansed”, that the entire town of Tawarga.

It’s not that the murderers who perpetrated this racist atrocity hid anything. They bragged about it, they bragged that they were not going to let it rebuild, they bragged about wiping out the 10,000 black-skinned Africans who built it up. Towarga burning:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/9/13/1315935037109/Tawarga-007.jpg

Frightened Towarga refugee:

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“Feed my sheep” and give them warning from me

English: Good shepherd (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Christians, it’s not “take care of my sheep”, it’s “Feed my sheep”:

John 21:17 (KJB) He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

I saw the modern this verse in a prayer list email message, and I wondered about this difference in the modern deviation from the original jot and tittle.

The NLT (“New Living Translation“) copyright 2007 (No copying more than a chapter lest the Copyright Police come and take away your place and your nation):

Jesus repeated the question: “Simon son of John, do you love me?” “Yes, Lord,” Peter said, “you know I love you.” “Then take care of my sheep,” Jesus said (John 21:16, NLT)

What’s missing there is the Great Commission from Mark 16:15 that is lost in that verse. A true shepherd of the Lord is NOT supposed to just “take care of” the sheep, he is supposed to FEED the sheep from “every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God”.

“Taking care of” the sheep is an earthly engagement, while Jesus’ admonition is the spiritual feeding of the WORD. To give it a different meaning is to destroy the spirit AND the letter of every “jot and tittle” of meaning, and demote the office of a shepherd to a mere earthly caretaker.

Christ was saying that the job of a shepherd is to make shepherds out of each sheep in his flock. It is NOT to just merely “take care of” them. “Taking care of” the sheep can mean different things in different congregations. Some pastors do nothing to take care of them; others reject all the guidance of scripture to “visit the widows and the orphans”, and prefer a “gospel” in favor of supporting governments that steal from the rich to give to the poor, and that’s how they “take care of” their sheep.

Is your pastor following Jesus’ admonition to discern the “signs of the times”? Jesus is saying here that the Pharisees had all the signs they needed and they had the Word, but they rejected the plain truth reading of the Word of God and instead sought some other kind of sign because they did not want to accept the signs of the times but wanted a different teaching. They wanted a false prophet instead of the word of God, so they “seeketh after a sign” because they are a “wicked and adulterous generation”.

Matthew 16:2-4 King James Version (KJB)
2 He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red.
3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?
4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/archives/5460

Are your shepherds (aka pastors, priests, rabbis) warning you of the storm coming to America? To Christians?

Ezekiel 3:17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.

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Reply to a Skeptic

Michael Faraday (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

My answer to a libertarian who is also a skeptic of the Bible, of God….

There you go again, talking about stereotype Christians that only exist in the caricatures you’ve been taught in government indoctrination centers (aka “public schools”) and government-financed young-adult indoctrination centers (aka “universities”).  My point was not to convince you of anything except that your holier-than-thou view of Biblical Christian belief manifested in your vocabulary bounces off the intended target, because you’re talking about tings that Bible-believers do not do or believe.

A few hair-brained idiots like the one group you mentioned as if it were typical, even with the billions in warped publicity they got, is only able to get two or three dozen followers, and half of those are the guy’s own family. It shows a nonsensical view to say these are typical or even to use them as a counterpoint to belief. Your mentioning them (in context) is like me saying I’m not an atheist because I don’t believe I should massacre 20 million people. Ad hominem arguments are irrelevant. But you have brought morality into the argument of an existential question (Does God exist?), so I’ve included commentary about it.

Another stupid view of which it is true that many Christians hold, is that all the award is in the afterlife. My life has had big disappointments, as has your own, but my life is super-grand. “Delight thyself in the Lord and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart”. (If your delights are warped it’s not “in the Lord”).

Your comments about burning in hell also show a misunderstanding of the whole thing. If an oven is real, denying its existence is the psychosis. I didn’t ask you to become a believer, obviously you’re not ready and may never be. I just wanted to knock down some ridiculous stereotypes that torture the minds of some unbelievers who have been schooled in same. NOBODY except demons and devils wants you to burn in hell, for example, it was not even made for humans. See, there’s a lot you don’t know about this and it shows when you get into the caricatures.

The caricatures show a bit of doubt about one’s own views on the subject, an aversion to how thinking people like Isaac Newton or Michael Faraday or Mother Theresa or William WIlberforce or Dr. Livingston would believe in a LOVING God that wanted them to help others.

A wonderful world is indeed where people take responsibility for their actions. Thinking that the Bible says otherwise shows a polar opposite understanding of its messages. “God is not mocked. Whatsoever a man seweth, that shall he also reap”. Believers hold it true more than you, because they know they have to give account. But without that, it just bubbles over as an effect of the belief. Like Mother Theresa might say, What else was she going to do? Or Dr. Livingston, the scourge of slavers everywhere, What else?

Your last paragraph does not seem to have any logical connection to the conversation. Christ HATES predation and thievery and ROARED against the money changers in the temple TWO THOUSAND YEARS almost before you were ever born and before Ron Paul‘s presidential campaigns. He is pleading with us to stop this theft and oppression of the poor.

LASTLY, since you wanted to take the conversation in this direction, I did not, keep in mind that the absolute worst regimes for murder and plunder and atrocity in the entire history of mankind has been the officially ATHEIST regimes. They did not permit religion to have any visible influence at all.

By their fruits ye shall know them.

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Morality, virtue, and a universal definition

English: Saint Patrick stained glass window from Cathedral of Christ the Light, Oakland, CA. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

“Religious people” do NOT fit into any such descriptive stereotype as some put forth, not in the real world. Many have a kind of Hollywood caricature of them. Most people don’t understand Christianity. A libertarian society could only come forth from a Christian legacy, expanded on the concept of the sovereign individual. The sovereign individual was always implicit in the laws of Moses and then then the historical, poetic and prophetic books of the Old Testament (the Tanukh). God was their ruler and He was the chief law enforcer of the laws of Moses, with priests only functioning for some immediate arbitration of disputes and to serve betimes as judges in cases of criminal acts.

Those who cry foul at the limited number of “capital” crimes are the same who today scream bloody murder if anybody questions their sacred doctrines or utters some forbidden thought, like maybe homosexuality is not morally equivalent to dark skin. Like David said, “I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war”. (Psalm 120:7)

There is another lie pushed by Parrot Media and Compliant Press, relating to science. St. Patrick‘s legacy is literacy, learning, and the shaming away of slavery in Europe, Isaac Newton and his peers with science based on experimentation, observation, repeatability, Martin Luther and other such peers’ legacy is the INDIVIDUAL’s own responsibility for his own salvation and his life). Christ said he came to “set the captives free”.

The Golden Rule is universal in one form or another, to all religions and even most atheists claim a form of it when challenged for the basis of their own claim to “morality” or to “virtue”.

“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” is pretty strong, but what can be expected of all is to at least expect reciprocity. Everyone knows, when intellectually honest, that it’s wrong to kill, because they don’t want to be killed. Everyone knows it’s wrong to steal, because they get miffed-plus if somebody robs them. And so on. And forcing a conversion is anathema to a true believer, as it is a false conversion.

The difference for truly believing Christians as opposed to the hum-drum  is that the greatest commandment (love God with heart, mind and soul) requires a recognition that they will have to answer to the Christian God for all their works and deeds.

UNFORTUNATELY in this generation the disclaimer is necessary to point out that a “Christian” by mouth and external label is no counter-example to the previous paragraph if his actions are those of one who does NOT believe he will have to answer for his deeds to a loving and merciful God.

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Why the Bible is libertarian

Memorial statue of William Wilberforce in Westminster Abbey, London (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Rothbard had an opinion on “The Politics of the Apocalypse”, and quite a few had some comments to make on the subject.

http://mises.org/daily/4574/Kingdom-Come-The-Politics-of-the-Millenium

http://flyoverpress.wordpress.com/2012/12/21/rothbard-on-the-politics-of-the-apocalypse/

Wow. All this talk about Christian doctrine variants more especially in the comments from people who don’t know very much about the subject, and repeat talking points from others who don’t know very much either.

Rothbard did understand some of the nuances of the doctrines and how they would relate to libertarians, especially with respect to Gary North, but there was some lack there. And he seemed to completely leave my views out, but then my Biblical views are not too well known even among Christians. (But for those who do it’s closest to “post-Trib”.)

Stay tuned, the only set of laws God mandated for a nation on the planet, was based on no earthly political government at all, and had no enforcement arm except the people themselves (who did a poor job of it in fact). And FORBAD taking a free man slave by the way.

Almost all of us alive today were robbed of the knowledge that THE “father of modern science”, Isaac Newton, was a young-Earth creationists. Oh, and NOW we have science. (Newton didn’t I guess haha).

And robbed of history. St. Patrick‘s legacy is literacy in Ireland, the end of slaving raids between Ireland and England, the saving of Greek and Roman classics by the Irish who learned to love Christ and books from Patrick, the re-introduction of learning and culture to Europe by the Irish and British monks.

And the one man identified with the end of slavery in the British Empire, William Wilberforce, who was sent back to the mission field of the British Parliament for that purpose by the repentant former slaver John Newton (“Amazing Grace”).

Europe’s history of Roman-heritage slavery faded away with the influence of former slave St. Patrick’s legacy, led an entire island of chiefs and serfs, and demon-worshippers and human sacrifices, Druid treat or tricksters, into the people that loved Christ and loved learning and saved many of the pagan Roman and Greek classics we have today.

Libertarianism itself that owes much of its philosophy to the influence that Christ has had in culture for two millennia. The “Golden Rule” has taken a very long time to get to the place where we are now at, and has had the obstacles of many identity thieves who took the credentials of the Prince of Peace to make war on their own people and their neighbors –though never with the savagery of pagans and unbelievers gone before and after.

And this may come as a shock to some Christ-haters, and some who are not so hostile, but the only government God ever really ordained directly was NONE AT ALL, outside the sense in which God is in ultimate control of it all (except where he lets you destroy yourself). Yep there were gobs of rules, and those rebellious and murmuring persnickety Jews in the Exodus that kept whining for how good they had it back in Egypt when they were slaves, they needed them.

There were some penalties ordained that we see today as harsh but you can go read for yourself how fast they quit obeying them and did NOT apply those penalties. And when they demanded a government, God told Samuel to tell them they had rejected HIM.

That’s a real theocracy, with no human mediator except Christ.

There’s more but this is too much already. You can see more of the reasoning when my book comes available on the subject. (Which just needs editing, but that takes a budget of time or money).

As to the relationship of millennial doctrines with political application, please observe that there are LOTS more atheists who are hell-bent on implementing their varied political philosophies and imposing their ways of life on the rest of us –lying platitudes from some of them notwithstanding– than there are Christians trying to run a guerrilla operation to take over. We are still tortured around the world by Christ-haters, along with other dissidents in whatever political geography, while the very loud “fag”-haters and “dominionists” can’t get more than a few dozen followers now.

And I know many devout Christians, born-again believers, who believe the Bible cover to cover, who are some of the most reliable libertarians there are. They have both the spiritual, the Biblical, and the political truths on their side. Some of them condemn homosexuality with the most emphatic language when congregated but exhibited the love and grace of God with homosexuals in their support for Ron Paul, for example.

Jesus did say “Go and sin no more” to the adulterous woman but just before that he said “Neither do I condemn thee”.  Like the early Christians, those who understand among the people shall instruct many, and instead of killing the infidel to spread their message (like pagans, fascists, socialists, and many atheists have done) they lay down their lives like their Christ.

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