Natural Rights vs God-given Rights

In nature, there are predators and prey, carnivores, herbivores and omnivores. There are some where males fight to the death to establish dominance over a troop.

Some libertarians talk about “natural rights” when talking about humans.

It is my belief that natural rights are a logical extension of the obvious and natural differences between humans and animals. The atheist libertarians that have most articulated the philosophy, for the most part, have extrapolated the NAP (and other axioms and conclusions) from those differences, and respective characteristics, to get to “natural rights” ideas.

From my perspective, Austrian economics is the best example of the application of eternal principles articulated in the Bible, even the 10 Commandments. Atheists and agnostics reject the 1st Commandment but are still responsible for living up to at least the NAP as a logical “corollary” of the NAP.

But nature operates according to certain rules, with scientific disciplines purporting to be about teasing those rules out from observations of nature.

But you cannot define nature as a coherent entity with creative powers. The law of entropy is an axiomatic principle that recognizes that nature acts in the way described. Nature has no independent agency and cannot overrule itself.

But human agency can. Some may say there is no free will, but ask one if he can change his mind if he wants to. He might say no, but many of them have changed their mind. Most physicists acknowledge quantum fluctuation, for example, and the “uncertainty principle”.

But now atheists that recognize principles of Austrian economics and how the free market works better than other economic models in human society, also have to explain why the NAP that is necessary for a true free market, does not work for ants.

“They’re not human” is an obvious answer, but when you ask them why humans are different they have to fall back on non-theistic answers that do not really explain it, if humans came to be through the same processes as ants.

So what is the essence in nature that requires natural rights?

My answer is that there has to be an “intentional agency” that made the rules. The rules that nature has not choice but to live by, and the rules that are implied by how human societies work best. Even an atheists like Mises and Rothbard have deduced a corollary of “the law of love” as the minimum rule for society to work in a way that is the optimum best for the aggregate, the NAP: no one person supplanting another’s volition by force, coercion, or fraud.

To sum it up, even atheists who subscribe to the NAP are able to deduce certain principles from certain axioms of human action, rules that explain how nature actually works in human society. It can even explain what happens when some humans violate the NAP.

They start from nature. But nature also has rules and Mises started from scratch from those rules in “Human Action” to derive how human societies and economics actually work.

But looking at nature, you can also make certain sure deductions. The laws of entropy, for example, there is no law of nature that any branch of science has been able to come up with an explanation as to why the laws of entropy and the strong anthropic principle can be universal rules for the cosmos without being able to deduce that there is an intelligent agency to engineer it, with the power to create it.

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The New York Times – Where Democracy Goes to Die

Orban – Champion of sane governance

The New York Times is now carrying a hit piece on the overwhelming winner of the most recent elections in Hungary.

Amazingly, their paragraph to describe thrice elected Orban, is not so far off, including its description of the dying West:

“As a young man, Orban fought against Bolshevism. Western liberal democracy was the Promised Land. Now it has morphed into the enemy. The West is the site of European cultural suicide, the place where family, church, nation and traditional notions of marriage and gender go to die. ”

 

But of course, the article lifts up the guy who finances socialism around the world, is the epitome of hedge fund financing, which “liberals” claim to hate, and finances havoc in many places. After he gave the keynote speech for a summit of heads of state from the Caribbean and Central American region, one of his audience tried to overthrow the Constitution in Honduras to try to set up another Chavista-type regime, which Honduras pushed back against.

So Three Cheers for Orban. Not a perfect libertarian I’m sure, and many “modern liberals” might hate his Christianity, but that’s life in the world leading up to the end times.

U. S. and State Governments Aiding and Abetting Criminal Brownshirts Leftists Now?

Yahoo/AP distorts the facts in their article about Charlottesville. What else is new?

Everyone who paid attention knows that one group in Charlottesville came with a permit, working getting the required permit, and intending to peaceably assemble. They had the legal right to be there.

If the ALT-LEFT had not announced with follow-through credibility that they intended to shut down that rally, there would have been no problem. Conservatives and Christians are already shut out of Operation Mockingbird Media, the Old Grey Lady Ossified Official Press, and increasingly censored out of private but de-facto public forums and arenas like Social Media sites, Google, Twitter, and so on.

But the counter demonstration as the media calls it included the very violent masked marauders of the fascists of  “antifa” who came with soda cans filled with concrete and other lethal weapons, one flamethrower caught on video, and marched straight toward the rally.

So what did the “authorities” do? Governor McAuliffe, who knew that a federal judge had ruled that the rally had a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to speak, and that he had time to provide and coordinate PROTECTION for this assembly, he declared a “state of emergency” so he and the mayor could shut down the rally, and make sure they joined the message to the country that they will not tolerate free speech to the right of Josef Stalin or Pol Pot.

So how did they proceed? Just before they began to speak, for starters, the police declared it an “unlawful” assembly. With a permit they got legally, remember, and for a rally for which the organizers had been coordinating with the police.

Then they sent the police in to remove the rally attendees from the site of the rally.

The police “escorted” the rally attendees directly into the violent “counter-protestors”, who were waiting for them with all their weapons. When the inevitable physical battle began, the police FLED the scene, telling one reporter they were pulling back because it was “too violent”.

What in the world are police for? First, there was plenty of warning from the left Brownshirts that they intended to force the rally to shut down.

So instead of protecting citizens who came to (freely) assemble and (freely speak), who disavowed violence, and prepare to block the declared criminal intent from the Brownshirt leftists, they proceeded to shut down the rally for those Brownshirts.

In other words, the Governor and the Mayor joined the criminals. The fascist “Antifa” members who are willing to speak publicly claim it is not really organized are liars, because you cannot have that many popping up everywhere in these highly coordinated actions without some kind of patronage, financial support, and organization. This is something that in a sane country cries out for some harsh RICO action.

But what if these leftist Democrat and RINO-dominated federal and state governments are joining the criminals in de facto censorship? What if Romans One is happening before our eyes, with people who have turned their backs on God getting given up by God to rot in their own reprobate minds?

Who threw insults first, Alinsky-ites?

How does it FEEL to think you’re the target of hateful speech?

I’ve been a victim of the Outrage Brigades for most of my life, because I have been a Bible believer and creationist, and in recent years as an anarcho-capitalist libertarian Ron Paul supporter. Your fellow anti-Trumpers are calling half the country the worst names they can think of. Where was that Outrage for “deplorables” racists, misogynists, homophobes, xenophobes,, “religious right”, “afraid of people who don’t look like them”, “cling to their religion and their guns”, “white nationalists”, and the other epithets and hate speech?

The “Forgotten Man” is the poor white trash , the virtue signaling lying press actually mouthed the phrase for the Casey trial. My parents from the Ozarks are not the haters, the people who hate them for their ideas are.

More recently as a guy who tries to explain to my Honduran-American wife and the step kids the manyear reasons why so many Americans could vote for Trump, along with one full third of Latinos and doubling the Republican vote among blacks.

I am against all government and all presidency, but they have been outraged by Univision and Mockingbird Media and peers into fried brain circuitry. Goebbels would be proud of this anti-Trump operation. The answer to everything is “but he’s a racist!”

Cognitive dissonance: One of them even said they don’t understand how I could be such a racist myself. Not for supporting him. They thought I did, only because I try to help them understand, and how Top-Gun Syrian-No-Fly-Zone Hillary was so dangerous.  They don’t even understand (or hear me) when I point out the alternative was the promise of air war against Russians in Syria (what is a no-fly zone, duh).

Me and racist. I spent half my adult life in Latin America, missionary with few Americans around me. Offended at bauxite and gold and silver being shipped back to the U. S., Delivering food to the poorest Barrios. Helping youth find their way to a better life…. My ex is Dominican, my wife is Honduran.

Outrage shines your logic. Trump said the word Mexican. So what? I’ve been among Latins probably more than anybody reader of these pages. They ALWAYS ALL THE TIME are bad-mouthing each other’s nationalities.

They say things like, Cubans are loud, Dominicans talk like ducks, Argentines thinking they’re Europeans, Puerto Ricans don’t speak Spanish, Venezuelan girls are putas, their men maricones, Hondurans are all indians, on and on it goes. They’re delighted at Cubans getting demoted by Obama, but everybody else should get treated better.

My wife’s mother told her: Well, it is their country.

How about let’s just talk ideas instead of outrage?

Joe Gerstner, political refugee from

gathered in the car). He reported theft. The next day a 15-year old boy told police he saw Gerstner shoot a transvestite dead. That went nowhere fast because the boy couldn’t keep his story straight and finally admitted a bribe from somebody “from the FBI”.

The day after that a detective had found a crack addict driving the car around, he was questioned and released, then the story was planted that he said he had stolen it from Joe Gerstner while the commissioner was high on cocaine and having sex with a prostitute. He was brought in for questioning, but a drug test proved he did not do cocaine. He refused to answer more questions, seeing it was a frame-up, so the judge put him in jail for contempt.

He was released after three weeks pending appeal, but instead of surrendering to Janet Reno’s vendetta (she was directing the discordant ruckus, her initials on documents), he went on “vacation” to Australia. As soon as the appeal fell through he applied for asylum in Australia. It took him eight years, because Janet Reno kept sending people (paid for by tax extortion victims) to bring him back to the U. S.

So Eric Holder was wrong.

And Dinesh Ddouza was a victim of political persecution, put in prison for being
effective at opposing Obama’s policies.

DHS preparing to hack the vote, Russians only a cover?

In the upcoming second debate, Hildabeast will point to the claim by her friends in the F.B.I. that the Russians are trying to hack the vote this November and Jeh Johnson’s power grab in telling states to get help from the governing  ruling class to “protect” the vote.

This is an obvious attempt to set us up for their plans of last resort to nullify a Trump victory. Maybe they’ll “find” fraudulent counts that they themselves hacked into the country.

This from the same crowd that does not like requiring identification to vote.

Worst case is a quick Supreme Court ruling that the vote in swing states is null and void. This would extend the Obama runaway presidency, a bonus to them. That would enrage Trump supporters. Next who knows? Maybe states seceding finally, calling out their state national guard to defend the state. Obama requesting the U. N. to send help.

Meantime, Assad eliminates ISIS  with  Russian help. And Bible prophecies begin to  coalesce.

More likely is that they would simply hack the vote for Hildabeast. I think Trumpers would protest vigorously, but how that ends is hard to control. They like to rig the results, they’re not used to unpredictability.

But the ruling class also have their gullible followers and mercenary trolls and paid demonstrators, jerked around by planted agents provocateurs.

Why is Trump bad, Why is Clinton bad?

Trump is bad for the dozens of people he has insulted and macho things he has said that the Crony pretends they are so pure on, although here we have deNiro mouthing worse.

Whereas Hillary has said worse about her husband’s rape and harassment victims, and Crony Media has joined in ganging up on Billary’s female victims.

Trump bad for insults, Hillary bad for the millions she has ordered slaughtered, including the 10,000 of Towargah in Libya , a genocide that targeted blacks.

The backwards thinking of “regressives”

Marriages were originally IMPLICIT contracts between two parties, and often withh the families engaged. Most were common law marriages, they just moved in together, the aspirant having had the okay of the father. (Fathers know guys better than the daughters do, at least back in those days).

The fact of the matter is, the natural nuclear family (husband, wife, children) is the institution that cultivates the strongest protection against state oppression. That went out the window with the push for state indoctrination of the next generations disguised as “free” academic education and then “forced” induction into the indoctrination centers.

The other institution that cultivates protection against meek pushover subservience to oppressors’ memes are religious institutions, this according to prominent agnostic economist and libertarian writer Murray Rothbard and atheist economist Walter Block.

No wonder Karl Marx wrote in the Communist Manifesto that they had to exterminate the “bourgeois” institution of marriage and family. Total devotion to the collectivist mentality of worker ants is their goal.  The lying viper never wanted a “workers’ paradise”, he wanted his own special groups to dictate.

The modern heirs of Malthus and Marx think there are too many poor people in the world. That’s why they want to “protect” us from bad people, push groupthink, collectivist mentality. They think like the Orwellian uppermost crust of the “Inner Party”, like the Animal Farm where everyone has to be EQUAL but SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.

So they push Groupthink disguised as “diversity”;

Inequality disguised as “equality”;

Unemployment disguised as “minimum wage”, now morphed to “living wage”;

Racism and racial preferences disguised as “anti-racism”, “affirmative action”,

Censorship and enforcement of group-think disguised as “equality” under the law;

Bullying libertarians, whistleblowers, pro-lifers and those of religious faith, and those who think differently under the guise of “equality” as a meaningless rant and “non-discrimination”,

Violating religious liberty under the guise of claiming to defend it;

And generally wearing sheepskin while inside they are “ravenous wolves”.

 

Madonna’s openly gay brother defends Kim Davis’ rights

The new thoughtcrime regime drew a line in the sand. Two thirds of Kentucky’s voters recently passed a constitutional amendment to incorporate into law what has been understood for marriage licenses for since there were any marriage licenses. Marriage a union of man and woman according to the understanding of the Framers at the time, as one of those “self-evident” truths they referred to in the Declaration of Independence.

At this next URL, an atheist defends Kim Davis:

http://christophercantwell.com/2015/09/05/the-religious-persecution-of-kim-davis/#more-6877

And here’s a report on Madonna’s openly gay brother defending Kim Davis and blasting the militant gays for their “sore winning”:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/madonna-openly-gay-brother-defends-ky-clerk-kim-davis-article-1.2350959

I agree with Chris Cantrell above, this is all about control. Centralizing government command-and-control obedience. Punishing thoughtcrime. They’re showing their hand with this. They had to use something to consolidate the Gramschi strategy for socialist tyranny.

(See this link for an explanation of the Gramsci strategy: http://www.wnd.com/2000/09/103/.)

See 2 Samuel 15 and Daniel 11 for examples of the strategies used by socialists today,  one by an ancient power-hungry operator and another a prophecy of the times we are living in.

 

How about pix of crimes prevented with the use of self-defense weapons

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3174367/Photographer-Joe-Quint-s-poignant-pictures-America-s-victims-gun-crime.html

Daily Mail just ran a feature with photos of “survivors of gun violence”. The feature did not show any of the victims who successfully shot back, or the ones who shot down the perpetrators, or the guy in a Washington state mall who stopped a shooting spree with only one down, because the shooter saw his gun.

I didn’t see Susan Hupp’s picture there either. She was at one of the worst massacres in history at Luby’s Cafeteria eating with her parents when a guy crashed his truck into the place, landing inside, and calmly began shooting. Her Dad was hit and her mother died with him.

Her handgun was locked up in her car one block away because at that time Texas had a ban on concealed carry.

She was so mad she waged a one-woman war against gun control, got herself elected to the Texas state legislature, and pushed and yelled till she got concealed carry passed..

My wife stopped a kidnapper from walking away with her son because she had her own “protection” in her purse, and she used it. He had the good fortune that it was my wife because she didn’t drop him dead.

There is one area in Honduras that has no violent gang problem. It has a violent reputation and everybody is armed there. They tried to form one gang chapter there but it was literally terminated after they killed the first father’s son.

The best prevention against bad guys with guns is good guys with guns. Best defense against tyranny especially.