CNN gives a minute air time to Trump supporters’ quotes

CNN puts out a news piece that’s not as bad as most of their stuff, but allows a few honest quotes they searched for to prove that some of Trump’s voters like his foreign policy, and some don’t:

https://tinyurl.com/ycfc5e27

Disclaimer: I did like Trump taking on the war machine in 2016 in his way, when he asked “What’s wrong with getting along with” Russia and other countries? With the way the two candidates presented their platforms in 2016, plus the proven history of Hillary Clinton’s war on Libya, we had certainty that Hillary would make unending wars one of the hallmarks of her regime. He was an unknown quantity.

One thing that looks promising is the lightning quick way Trump grabbed onto the chance to do a summit meeting with Kim Il Un.

CNN actually put some Trump voters’ comments in there and acknowledged a lot of them see the world “in exactly the same way” as Trump. But they didn’t put on quotes from people who want the more peaceful Trump they voted for who would pull out of Syria, for example. Like ME.

But they give no coverage to guys who think like me, or see the world the way I do. They talk like we don’t exist.

I voted for Trump, but I did it under no illusions at all about anything. I’m a peacenik, although not a pacifist in the Amish sense. I believe whole heartedly in the unfettered, unabridged, unrestricted absolute human right of self-defense, that there should be ZERO government say on it at all. Anybody having to do with legislation or enforcement in any government is the LAST person morally qualified to have any voice at all in the matter of personal or group or collective self defense, because governments are based on the arrogance of saying one group of people (whether royalty, majority, elected representatives, minority or party) coercive, forced control over every other group of people.

In other words, government claims the power to force every person it has power over to do its will.

So who the hell are they to say this.

But back to Trump voters, so, I like a LOT of what he said in the 2016 campaign, especially about wanting to “get along” with Russia and letting Russia take care of the mess in Syria. Russia did better than the US did there, with somebody in the Obama administration implementing a plan that was exposed in a quietly released Pentagon document that promoted the idea of an Islamic jihadist insurgency in Syria, working through “Arab allies” in the region, to gum up the works for Assad. The idea being to overthrow Assad, because Obama said so later (“Assad should go”) when the Pentagon plan seemed to come into some fruition.

But then two things blew up in their faces. One was, Russia started increased its help for Assad.

I was under no illusion about Trump. My Honduran wife and most of the step-kids keep repeating that I love Trump, which means they never listened at all to my reasoning.

Now, we have the move of the USA embassy to Jerusalem, and the neo-conservatives that seem to have come to dominate his government, like the war-mad John Bolton, and threat-breathing Nikki Haley getting undue respect from WH voices, and backtracking on pulling out all the troops from Syria. It looks like Trump used the backdrop of Bibi’s anti-Iran show to pull out of the Iran deal.

Trump should have better listened to Pat Buchanan’s wise admonitions to avoid Middle East traps. Instead of an Israel-first policy, exercise the promised America-first policy. Israel desperately wants a war with Iran. They figure they have the USA in its back pocket, and it will jump right into a war on their side, and they have historical reason to think so. One Pentagon Admiral put it this way once: the Israel lobby gets stuff sometimes before the Pentagon does.

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Elections in Honduras: The Left Riots, Loots, Burns At Losing in the Counting

The international press is totally mutilating the truth in its reporting out of Honduras about the elections held on Sunday this week, where the beast of Venezuela style socialism rears its ugly self again, after being rejected soundly by the nation in 2009.

A recap of events in 2009 in Honduras, and how this would be strong man little Chavez wanted his own dictatorship:
https://trutherator.wordpress.com/2009-honduras-recap-links-in-spanish/

In this next link you’ll find my blog post about how Allende and Zelaya are the real coup-mongers:
https://trutherator.wordpress.com/1540-2/

Another link about Mel Zelaya’s coup attempt:
https://trutherator.wordpress.com/fact-and-links-page-on-honduras-and-golpista-mel-zelayas-coup-detat/

And this one I wrote during the days after Zelaya was arrested:
https://trutherator.wordpress.com/zelaya-was/

Voters in Honduras went to their voting stations this past Sunday, November 26, 2017, to cast ballots for mayors, diputados (congressional representatives), and for president.

Juan Orlando Hernandez is the presidential candidate for the Partido Nacional (“Nationalist Party”). The main opposition candidate is sportscaster Salvador Nasralla, a candidate for the leftist “Alianza de Opposicion contra la Dictadura”, a candidate for the so-called “Partido Libre” and PINU. This “Alianza” should really be called the “Alliance to Impose Dictatorship”, because of the personality in the background, returning to the fray after Honduras rejected him because he rejected Honduras, Manuel Zelaya, aka Mel Zelaya. His official title in this confederacy of villains is “Coordinator”.

If Nasralla wins, then Zelaya wins.

Nasrallah signed an agreement with the International Observers who came for the election, as did Juan Orlando, to accept the results without protest the results as announced by the TSE.

But some three hours after signing the document, he renounced it. The word from Honduras (forget the international agencies) is that he did this without checking with Manuel Zelaya first. He hid in the background in the campaign while calling the shots. Zelaya didn’t like that at all, and three hours later he broke the agreement. And now yesterday, he called for street protests, knowing that he was unleashing an orgy of violence, and that’s exactly what is happening right now in Honduras, this day, Friday, December 1, 2017.

Part of the blame may fall on the TSE, but they have announced, and the European Union observer team also said in press conference, that they had to suspend the counting efforts because of the tear gas floating in from outside. The tear gas was used to disrupt the so-called Alliance supporters who were outside the TSE offices and trying to get in to disrupt the counting. And as an excuse he said it was because of the computer outage during the counting.

ZELAYA BACK, BUT WHO’S BEHIND HIM?

My wife was in high school with Manuel Zelaya, who is the figure she tells me pulls the strings on Nasralla. She told me her classmates regarded him as the dumb one in school. And when one teacher told the class anybody could be president in the country, Zelaya announced he was going to be president. The class roared in laughter. Before his arrest in 2009, while still president, many political observers thought Secretary of State Patricia Rodas was the mastermind of his presidency. Patricia Rodas did her college studies in Cuba.

What is lost in the noise is that the Alianza de Oposicion has representatives present for the counting.

Nasrallah led in early counting but the tide turned after a time, so it was easier for the leaders of this socialist alliance to send their gullible followers to the streets.

IMPORTANT NOTE ON NASRALLA:

During the campaign, one interviewer asked Nasralla about the brutal violent gangs Salvatrucha 13 and the 18 gang. He said he was not afraid of them, they were his “friends”. At some point, I’m told he said (publicly) that he would stop Juan Orlando’s construction of maximum security prisons to hold them, and would let them go to the streets.

Those gangs and their violence got much worse during the Zelaya presidency.

My wife has a friend, a poor friend, who lost a son to the gangs. A cousin as well. And the friend’s son was almost killed until her errant daughter (who was or is a friend of some sort with the gang leader at the time) intervened to protect him.

It seems to some extent, too, and certain times, these gangs learned to cool down a bit with honest working families. For awhile, they were running out of people that had anything. One family, friends with part of my stepchildren’s close circle of college friends,

The gangs collect what they call a “tax” from businesses in their territory. But sometimes their turfs “overlap”. We have a close friend of the family there that had a good small family store. She was already having to pay this “tax” to one gang, and then came another to collect. So now she has to pay this monthly extortion to TWO gangs. Very discretely, because if one gang finds out about the other one, they will murder her.

That’s one reason in reality, Juan Orlando is so popular among the productive sectors of the people, and a great number among the poor as well. One channel walked up one street and asked every person waiting on a bus which way they leaned, and it seemed like an even mix.

LATE BREAKING

The head of the delegation of observers from the United Nations, and the head of the group of observers from the European Union, are asking the Opposition (Nasralla-Zelaya) and their followers to cease from the violence in the streets, so they can continue counting the votes. They are waiting for the Opposition to return to the TSE counting area so they can continue, because the law says all parties should be present.

One man speaking for the Partido Nacional demands that Opposition return to the counting table, asking if they won the vote, then why are they not present to defend their interests?

So the official delegations from the OAS and the UN can see who are the disruptors, who are the cheaters.

So far, there has been a lot of burning and looting, and in San Pedro the looters cleared an entire department store of its merchandise, drugs, furniture, electric appliances, stoves, refrigerators, clothes, everything.

Blocking roads. They destroyed the toll booths on the road outside San Pedro to the main highway that leads to Tegucigalpa. In one town they set a very old church on fire. It was recorded by someone wailing that they had no shame.

They don’t want a fair vote, looks like they want power, and the poor fools sucked in by their demagoguery are willing to do the sacking the looting and the burning for them.

En Copan, one National Party leader denounced one of the leaders of Alianza who went into hiding because someone discovered that she had ordered their followers to burn down the police station for the town.

This a fake protest on the part of Nasralla and Zelaya, who simply want to take power, by riot and mayhem if they cannot win an honest vote.

Please say a prayer for Honduras tonight. (And tomorrow).

Another strike on Assad forces: Atrocity

The U. S. strike on pro-Assad Syrian forces just announced, in Syrian territory, is absolutely a violation of international law.

And the excuses they give for it are laughable. A laugh riot. The real abusers of civilians in Syria have been perpetrated by the armies that the United States has been supporting there. That includes ISIS, with money flowing from Washington to the Saudis, who have been sending money and arms to ISIS in Syria. This is publicly known information, even though the Fake News Networks try to sit on this scandal.

Assad is the best friend of Christians in Syria and better than almost the entire Arab world.

MAKE PEACE NOT WAR.

The Russians Are Coming? Whoa! Who’s that in my video cam lookin’ down on me?

Mr. Klew Less: “The Russian intelligence agencies meddled in our elections!”

Mr. Ekko Chambers: “Why the shameless nerve! Don’t they know, the only ones allowed to meddle in our elections are American intelligence agencies!“

After learning Jesse Ventura, Reform Party upstart, won the election for governor in Minnesota, he was asked by the CIA: “How did you win?”.

Pogo: “We have met the enemy, and the enemy is us!” 

Well, they’re keepin’ on and keepin’ on, Russia, Russia, Russia. One liar over here (D. C.) says it, the one over there (in France) thinks “Wow that’s a good scapegoat” so complains about it, so then the liar over here says, “See! Even over there too!” And so, ’round and ’round it goes, and true X-File  believers (slogan: “I want to believe!”) pick up on it, and cheer and repeat. Echo, echo, in true Goebbels format, until it becomes true (to you? No? Good).

Look over there. Edward Snowden showing NSA spying on everybody. (NSA corporate slogan: “We’re the only part of government that actually listens to you!”)

Then Vault7 starts dribbling out the tools of the criminal government-directed taxpayer-funded cyber-hacking trade. Uh oh, UMBRAGE is the tool that shows how the CIA leaves evidence of, wait for it, Russians hacking!

Oh, my, after that came out, Wired pointed to it, and moaned Oh, No, the perfect excuse for people to deny that the Russians hacked the elections! I mean, who else but the Russians would want to tell the world what the Royal Heir Apparent really thinks about the serfs in her fiefdom!

Who else but the villain Boris would want Americans to know the truth? The shame!

But the baseless Russian excuse for “letting Trump win” is now pretty much kaput, Americans just aren’t buying it. If Trump’s numbers are going down, it’s probably because of these broken promises and he’s not finding a way to push them through, and too many people are now wondering if he really meant them.

And putting his voice to a wilted, meek, tiptoe of “Repeal”, and that even a false label, people aren’t so easily fooled now.

But like Scott Adams predicted, the “Hitler” charge has hit the dust, Now the “Russia” charge is wilting, so they’re setting up for plan “E”. Plans A, B, C, and D were blocking the nomination, rigging the election, the Hitler theme (racist! fascist!) isn’t working, the Russian collusion thing is collapsing (with Comey and companies keeping it open just in case). Next, plan E.

Trump is crazy! Uh, just like Hitler! The shrink said it on the Tucker Carlson show! Forget the Russians, Trump is crazy! He’s got as many bats in his belfry as, Clinton!

 

Reason: Obama is obviously a warmongering president

About Steve Chapman, writer of record of this article at Reason Magazine:
Hillary’s Appetite for War

The author says “The president himself is partly to blame” for getting Democrat Party members and followers and the public “inured” to war. Hey guys, he is to blame for jumping in with both feet. President Truman hung out a sign on his desk: “The buck stops here”. The expression, for you younger guys, means he’s the boss and takes the blame for his underlings.

Obama loves to blame the “top one percent” for everything their companies do, why soft-pedal this thing with him. What, he listens to his Secretary of State and former rival for top dog, and his coterie of adviser women, and he has no blame for anything?

And then this “Reason” author says something that in this real world sounds irrational:

“Obama has also refused to be panicked into reckless military action against Syria”.

BALONEY.

Americans were tired of war, and even when they tried the false flag operation of getting the Syrian “rebels” to use chemical weapons against civilians while blaming it on Syria, in one marvelous demonstration of the importance of an independent free-for-all Internet, it took one lonely unsung European reporter to blow the whistle on them.

(By the way, the U. S. has stockpiles of those weapons, and used a banned chemical warfare weapon against its own civilians at Waco, Texas. That “tear gas” was a chemical used in Vietnam to kill the Vietcong in their tunnels.)

In other words, Obama either approved the operation or post-facto nodded at it.

OBAMA IS ALL IN AGAINST ASSAD AND HELPING SYRIAN REBELS AND ISIS INCLUDED

Everybody who isn’t head-stuck in the sand knows by now that D.C. is pouring aid into Saudi Arabia as back-channel help for the “rebels” in Syria. Almost everybody should know by now –if you’re paying attention– that Saudi Arabia is pouring rivers of financing and arms to ISIS. On occasion the war hawks talk about using the Middle East allies more, but they don’t say too much.

Now we find out that Obama has deliberately ordered the troops to let ISIS sell their oil.

Somebody reading this is rolling their eyes because they believe government media (PBS, NPR, CNN, FNC,FBN, CNBC, CBS, ABC, NYT, Washington Post, etc). He just announced in a big news story that they dropped leaflets warning oil truck drivers to get out of the way, for around 100 of them waiting at the ISIS oil docks.

The Pentagon has been watching they said, over a THOUSAND of these trucks filling up and they have not bombed them.

Obama is waging a PRETEND war against ISIS. Obama is all in for helping al Qaeda and ISIS overthrow Assad in Syria. Obama saw nothing wrong with Hillary Clinton’s helping al Qaeda get rid of Gaddafi.

Gaddafi had become one of the best allies against al Qaeda in the Middle East. He turned over their bad guys and he gave up his nuclear program. That’s why he was confused about the West attacking him so hard.

What about the propaganda against him that claimed he was attacking civilians? My question is, why did the media go along with that propaganda without mentioning that the Libyan “rebels” were doing much worse? Where is the story that exposes the lie that said all the blacks defending Gaddafi were “mercenaries”, when in fact they were the people who were treated well in Gaddafi’s Libya and that knew the Yankee-supported NATO-armed “rebels” were fatally dangerous to them?

Why did nobody ask why the Obama-Clinton regime was supporting rebels that committed much worse atrocities against civilians? If getting rid of monsters is the goal, why aren’t they attacking the worst of them?

“Massacre of Blacks in Libya By NATO-backed Rebels Continues as World Watches”:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/massacre-of-blacks-in-libya-by-nato-backed-rebels-continues-as-world-watches/26643

Who in their right mind believes this? Oh, yeah, maybe the same ones that believed the troops would find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvliUuXjbL4

And quoting a Washington Post propagandist that said Obama shows “an appreciation not just of the limits of U.S. power, but also of the limited need to exercise it.”

We can all see that he pushes U.S. power where he wants it, and that is, AGAINST the United States and its future. Contrary to the “peaceful guy” government propaganda, he is actively supporting operations that will be the country’s ruin, and he knows it. How can he not, unless his IQ is a lot less that his hiding of college records suggests.

You cannot blame Hillary Clinton for Obama’s continued war against Syria, his pretense bombing of ISIS while supporting Saudi Arabia’s support for ISIS in Syria. You can blame Obama for refusing to cooperate with Russia against ISIS, but not as a “weakness” or “peaceful” man. The truth is rather obvious: they don’t want it known that their support for “moderate Syrians” is a bogus smokescreen disinformation cover. Russia asked the U.S. to tell them where to avoid bombing, then asked them where to bomb.

How strange, two months or so after Obama’s own propaganda campaign for bombing Assad’s forces had hit a blowback wall, ISIS bursts onto the news cycle with captured American tanks and captured Iraqi oil wells, complete with a change in American opinion.

Je ne suis pas Charlie Hebdo

If the attack on “Charlie Hebdo” was anti-semitic, so was a cartoon that one artist published in the Charlie Hebdo magazine a few years ago that got the artist fired.

After the magazine Hara-Kiri was shut down by the French government after satirizing the exaggerated mourning of De Gaulle two days after his funeral (1970!), the same people simply renamed it Charlie Hebdo and kept publishing.

You can call the attack on the kosher restaurant anti-semitic, but what do you call the blasphemous anti-Christian caricatures and the blatant anti-Islamic caricatures?

FREE SPEECH

In France there are “hate speech” laws that make Charlie Hebdo’s caricatures of Christians and Muslims illegal, but they are only enforced against “anti-semitism”.

Among the sea of the reported three million demonstrators for “free speech” with “Je suis Charlie” buttons (how could they print that many in only a week?), a policeman ordered one of them to remove his “Je suis Kouachi” button (the name of one of the killers).

Only 48 hours after people marched for “free speech” in the streets of Paris, France opened criminal proceedings against comedian Dieudonné for his speech they said was “defending terrorism”. This was only one of 54 new such cases for “condoning terrorism”.

In a land that imprisons you for expressing banned opinions (and facts too!), these heads of state stand with the leaders that imprison you for saying it out loud?

How long before they ban statements like “Jesus is the ONLY way to heaven”? They are already working on that by the way and they have already muzzled teachers in taxpayer/theft-funded government indoctrination centers even in the U.S.

How long before they warn cops to be on the lookout in America for dangerous people with “Ron Paul” bumper stickers on their cars? –Oh, they already did that! Five years ago!

And try to publish an ad in the States with pictures from Deir Yassin after the Irgun massacre of the entire town. You think anybody will publish it?

These “conservative” neo-cons, children of Trotskyite Communists, never want to cut back welfare programs, and they always want to keep the US in war. They are both programs designed to bankrupt the country’s economy and mold its culture into forming pliant obedient subjects.

Go for 100% freedom from aggression and theft but take what you can get.

Tom Bell said he is “cautiously optimistic”. With the kind of hell that the world-government-statist control freaks put Honduras through in 2009 when they rebelled against their program, you can’t blame them for wanting to go under the radar.

That, said, I don’t have any illusions about Honduran politicians any more than others, although 2009 was a bit refreshing. I know more than you about them. My wife is from there and was one and wanted out from the first day she got in. And has nothing but an attempt to murder her and the children to show.

I think in 2009 the politicians actually just buckled under the pressure of wives, husbands, adult children, cousins, lots of friends, most of the LOCAL press that refused to march to international orders, ALL the Protestant leaders, ALL the Catholic clergy in the country almost, their chambers of commerce, the UNIONS (except for the Marxist dictated PUBLIC teachers’ union, albeit with great numbers of teachers dissenting, ALL private schools, their equivalent of a bar association (lawyers), and ALL but 4 of the Congressmen.

Congressmen and others involved in the effort travelled to South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong, and other places that moved from poverty to prosperity.

Lobo, not so honest himself, had asked for suggestions from various sectors on how to escape poverty. My suggestion to the representative from the expat community that was invited to contribute, was education, technology, gold currency base, and among other things, a study of what was successful elsewhere.

My understanding is that some folks from Universidad Franciso Marroquin, a school that teaches Austrian economics theory, also participated in the planning of the zones.

I say, with Wendy of Daily Bell and many others, preach the actual radical solution of the NAP, anarcho-capitalism, and complete economic freedom from aggression and theft, but take everything you can get. Ron Paul voted for every single tax reduction that came along, including the ones with labels like “exemption”. but we all know he wanted to abolish them all.

 

 

Ron Paul says Obama’s Drone Wars Undermine American Values

His comments are found at the Daily Bell:

http://www.thedailybell.com/editorials/35250/Ron-Paul-Obamas-Drone-Wars-Undermine-American-Values/

One big thing I like about Daily Bell is that they carefully analyze events, look for context, and make clear that what you see –in the regular news media fare- is not always what you get. No WSYWIG there, no sir. And it’s early to call for war crimes tribunals, as there is not sufficient infrastructure (yet anyway) to enforce them. Education will do its job. Ron Paul’s campaign to educate the American body politic is a good example of the greater effectiveness of this. The numbers of both those who are aware, both veterans in forums and publications, and the newly aware, will continue to grow despite the hysterical efforts of the Powers That Be to explain everything in Controlled Media in ways that pretend that there is no liberty movement. As long as there is a sector of the Internet that is free, and it is still possible to spread facts and the real stories at these electronic speeds, it will continue to grow. In fact, it will continue on in some form, even if they implement Lieberman’s wet dream of an Internet “off-switch…like China has.” Like China!

The USA has certainly supported fascists, drug lords and terrorists many places, and “installed” a few. But as a libertarian anarcho-capitalist myself, it is evident to me most left-fascists and libertarians alike, sometimes ascribe too much power to the CIA overseas. I call libertarians especially to telescope to a view of these world events from a higher altitude. I’ll bet you that some analysts within the intelligence apparatus have an inflated view of their own power.

For example, no matter how much Hugo Chavez and later Maduro blamed CIA plots for what Hondurans did in 2009, whatever the CIA did was irrelevant. My wife is from there, and it made me nervous that it might become another Venezuelan vassal state. If they paid out money here or there, they totally wasted all of it, because the overwhelming majority of the people of that country were dedicated to getting rid of the guy they supposedly elected earlier. It was a bit of a surprise even to me, since most of the poor are inclined toward looting the rich. I believe it’s possible Hugo Chavez won the first election, even though in my opinion he’s perfectly capable of committing fraud.

But I realized later that even many of the poor in Honduras are somewhat educated now about events elsewhere, and there is an Internet effect there too. It helped that apparently the media seems somewhat less subservient to the politicians, and some of the local elite families saw socialism as inimical to their own interests. There were probably a few of them also “hedging their bets” and secretly supporting the auto-coup plotter Zelaya, including one famous perennial presidential candidate who was accused very publicly of smuggling him into the Brazilian embassy.

Not all poor people are stupid or ignorant. Hondurans who hate poverty and who are capable of thinking analytically at all, they do NOT want an economy like Cuba’s or Venezuela’s. They know theirs has been corrupt, but they would rather not jump into the abyss of permanent poverty just like that. More so the middle class there.

Hillary Clinton made a personal call to Zelaya and told him to resign, and so open the door for the socialist president that the American ambassador had supported in the efforts to establish his lifetime national socialist Chavista fiefdom. Yes he did. What the CIA does is secret, but in the small-town social environment of a country like Honduras, not everything can be kept secret. Hugo Llorens appeared in some of the televised propaganda for the propaganda cover for the overt stage of the auto-coup, the takeover manifest”referendum”.

The “demonstrations” in favor of Zelaya were padded with paid bodies. Chavez poured so much money in that the lempira rose a full 10% against the dollar for a few weeks while they tried to make a show of it for the world.

The CIA may have been doing its thing there, no doubt, but keep in mind that the FSS and FIS (successors to the KGB and the GRU) are not exactly dead, and Chavez was all about intervention himself. He offered President Micheletti $3 million dollars to resign, poured money in for marches (that never reached the numbers of the pro-Micheletti, anti-Zelaya, anti-Chavez, or even the irate protests against CNN and its reporter, who was distorting the situation there.

Socialism does not need any CIA intervention to collapse under its own destructive weight. The CIA often does, always does, intervene for its own purposes. But let us not kid ourselves. Sometimes it may act in a manner you least expect, also. Moles are not rare anywhere, and the Venona papers of course corroborated the accusations of Senator McCarthy that the State Department was infiltrated by outright Communists that reported to the Soviet Union.

And who can doubt the jubilation of East Germans when the Berlin Wall fell and they were able to join the “more free” market and prosperity of West Germany?

Who can doubt that 90% of North Koreans would seize the chance to migrate to South Korea?

Who can doubt that the United States today just might have more Cubans than Cuba itself? And remember, Cuba cannot blame the embargo either, since every other nation in the world allows trade with them.

And even with the case of Chile, almost nobody ever hears the fact that the Congress in Chile, lacking a constitutional method to impeach and dethrone the dictatorship of Salvador Allende, voted 81 to 47, on August 22, 1973, for a resolution demanding the immediate cessation of Allende’s unconstitutional actions, that he cease arming leftist cadres, and a series of other demands, PLUS they demanded the removal of Allende from office. The military did nothing until the Congress demanded it, because of the economic damage and the violence that the regime had propagated.

This was even dubbed a “trade secret” by leftist journalists in Latin America: That they begrudgingly knew, admitted among themselves, that Pinochet’s actions had resulted in a much more prosperous Chile. And that was before they joined the G-7 club of “developed” nations.

Let me restate here though that I am absolutely opposed to US intervention abroad, all of it.

But many actions seem even engineered to hurt American interests, of which drone strikes are a “striking” example. Even if the orders that go forth for those actions are not purposed to hurt the country, they may be an example of God’s warnings that he would “turn back” the weapons in the hands of a nation under judgment. (Jeremiah 21:4)

Maduro caled for peace in Venezuela? Really? Maduro?

This is an open letter to Jacob Hornberger of the Future of Freedom Foundation, in reaction to his article of April 5, 2014, at http://www.lewrockwell.com. I am copying it to my blog at http://www.trutherator.wordpress.com.

His article is found here:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/04/jacob-hornberger/us-out-of-venezuela/

Mr. Hornberger,

I’m an anarcho-capitalist that found out with Ron Paul’s campaign in 2008 that my 40-year-old views had lined up with what are called “libertarian”, and as a former missionary that lived since early 1970s in Latin America or in Hispanic-dominated Miami-Dade Count. My ex-wife is from the Dominican Republic and my wife is from Honduras. I plan on retiring in Honduras. I hope it will not be overwhelmed by a socialist regime such as Maduro’s. What they have today would be better, but I hope to add to the libertarian conversation in Honduras.

I have a personal interest against USG and UN interventions around the world. Foreign aid and drug wars are killing men in great numbers in my wife’s country -and killing their economy. Maybe the new special economic regions, designed artfully with the help of some libertarian economists from the US and from the Mises-associated institute in Guatemala will help them. I hope.

No doubt the CIA is around somewhere doing whatever they do, and let us be honest here: Neither of us knows what they are really doing, except in general terms. I used to think we could presume they consistently support American capitalist interests. After Honduras, Libya, Syria, with the evidence from these episodes of the USG helping socialist dictators and its purported Number One enemy to gain power in these places, I’m not so sure. Honduras I know best; and they did not hide their efforts to support the socialist dictator there.

I am surprised and a bit irritated at the reaction to regimes like Maduros’. Especially since I read it on http://www.lewrockwell.com.

Before I get to why, I totally agree with your concluding paragraph:

Leave Venezuela to the Venezuelans. If private Americans wish to involve themselves in the controversy, that’s fine. But the U.S. government should butt out entirely. What happens in Venezuela is none of the U.S. government’s business. Unfortunately, given the secret nature of the U.S. national-security state, the American people will never know the extent of U.S. involvement in the Venezuelan crisis until the CIA’s files on the matter are opened several decades from now.

Maybe they’ll open the files, maybe not, but I doubt that any files that will be available either now or later will reveal anything on the subject worthwhile, and more likely misleading.

But it is an amazing spectacle to see all the well-deserved condemnation of probable USG involvement, and absolutely nothing about what the Venezuelans might actually want in reality independently of both the American government and their own dictatorship.

I don’t remember any such outrage over Obama’s demands and Hillary Clinton’s interventions in Honduras to try to force them to put the socialist dictator Manuel Zelaya.

The American ambassador to Honduras at the time, Hugo Llorens, made an appearance in a commercial aired by the Zelaya regime, propaganda to get public support for his very unpopular effort for his so-called “referendum” (later relabeled “survey”).

Hillary Clinton made a personal call to Roberto Micheletti to resign, which would of course make it easier to force Honduras to take Zelaya back as the dictator he already was.

This “referendum” horrified Hondurans, because they knew three things for sure. (1) One, the thing would be fraudulent. They know their politicians. (2) Two, Zelaya had already advocated presidential re-election (already defined as “treason” by the Honduras constitution because of earlier attempts at lifetime presidencies. (3) Three, and worst of all, it would open up for more fraudulent “elections” to create an irrevocable socialist dictatorship, Chavez style, in Honduras.

There was one piece that circulated on the Internet at the time, how Zelaya “brought the country together”. Every group of any significance at all in those days demanded first his resignation and then supported his removal and the constitutional successor government of Micheletti. Half the population filled the plazas of the biggest and the smallest cities and villages to say so. The Chambers of Commerce, BOTH major political parties, ALL the Congress (elected by the same people that voted for president), the Catholic Church (Zelaya’s mob had to import a priest), all the Protestant churches, all the unions (except the hopeless teachers’ union, that had them on strike more than in the classroom literally by count of days– for the previous three years), and EVERY ex-pat in a forum where I was member.

What’s the CIA going to do there? What can they do? Why would they waste a dime getting the country to get rid of somebody they did not want?

Oh, yeah, because Soros wants power. But no doubt HIS dirty hands were in the pot FOR Zelaya. Keynote speaker at the regional summit the November previous.

Hondurans got panicked at the prospect of fixed elections creating another Cuba or Venezuela in their country. They vote with their feet by getting to the States at the first opportunity.

Why is it so hard to understand that so many Hondurans, or even Venezuelans, hate the serfdom of socialism, along with the miserable poverty it brings?

Maduro bragged in his op-ed in the New York Times about universal health care? Oh get out! The poor have to bring their own sheets into hospitals and sleep on the floor there! We’re already getting our own taste of that bitter poisonous “medicine” in the States!

That was the attitude of most of the Hondurans. Fortunately for them, apparently many or most of the richest and most powerful interests were inclined their way. BUT not all; one zillionaire and perennial presidential candidate was fingered in newspapers and “on the street” as the one who smuggled Zelaya back in to the Brazilian embassy (Surprise, Brazilia!)

And it is relevant that Maduro is the heir of the Chavista regime that has meddled in its neighbor’s internal political affairs and tried its best to save the imposition by external Force of a dictatorship that had no regard for anything but seizing power.

The phony pro-Zelaya demonstrations had some genuine bodies, but it was mostly marching-for-hire. They poured so much money into the country that the lempira went up a full 10 percent against the dollar for those several months!

Zelaya admitted in a Univision interview that he had won the election by fraud by saying that all elections have fraud.

After 2009, I have followed events in Venezuela.

Please note an unsung development in Latin America. It’s hard to see its long-term effect, but it has been noticed by some statesmen “down south”.

Honduras changed history in Latin America with its reassertion of some constitutional order inside its borders, such as it is. Don’t get a smug face about it; they did better in 2009 than the US has done in recent years. Will Obama in 2016 declare a federal election nationwide to vote for a new constitution? That momentum is building, from both the phony “right wing” and the phony “left wing”.

After the 2009 elections in Honduras, the president of El Salvador of the former “leftist” guerrilla party, declared dead the move to join Venezuela’s petro association. The mayor of Caracas demanded the importation of “cojones” from Honduras. Freedom-minded Latins were inspired all over. Honduran ex-pat communities felt relief unspeakable. Brazilian Congressmen went back to Brazil with the news that the entire Brazilian community living in Honduras were engraged at Zelaya’s refuge in their embassy.

No doubt Paraguay had Honduras in the back of their minds when they impeached and dethroned their own dictator aspirant for his dictatorial acts. Venezuela’s caudillo government whined about another CIA-backed coup.

It’s a political safe bet down south (and apparently among some libertarian circles in the US today too) to blame the CIA and the US for all their troubles.

Maybe the CIA is trying for a coup in Caracas, given the atmosphere in Latin America today. Soros has his fingers everywhere. He would love to have a dictatorship to deal with, to give him good deals, good power, after all…

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P.S. There are videos of the police shooting at protestors there. There is video on youtube of Chavistas shooting into the million-person march (literally) in cold blood that resulted in twelve people dead. A false flag coup distracted the world’s attention from this slaughter of civilians and a de-facto socialist coup ensued thereupon by outing anti-Chavez military to purge them. These “CIA lackeys” and “coup plotters” got no punishment at all, they were cleared by the *Chavista* Supreme Court of all charges, with military pensions and all honors retained. And it was a “CIA” coup?

Can people be more gullible?

 

Can’t have a war without soldiers

Can’t have a war without soldiers:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/01/laurence-m-vance/you-cant-have-a-war-without-soldiers/

Congress rolls over for the executive (Ron Paul):
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/01/ron-paul/congress-rolls-over-for-the-executive/

What to do when cops pull you over:

Top brass, military and civilian, were told minutes after it started, about the “terrorist” (their word) Benghazi attack, with no mention of any video, to then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and minutes before they reported on it to the President:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/14/benghazi-transcripts-top-defense-officials-briefed-obama-on-attack-not-video-or/

Alcohol: study says it’s the “direct cause” of 80,000 deaths a year in the USA:

The countries with the highest rates of alcohol-related deaths were mostly in Central America, including El Salvador (27.4 out of 100,000 deaths each year), Guatemala (22.3 out of 100,000) and Nicaragua (21.3 out of 100,000).

Overall, men accounted for 84 percent of alcohol-necessary deaths, though the male-to-female ratio varied from country to country. In El Salvador, the risk of a man dying from an alcohol-necessary cause was 27.8 times higher than that of a woman, while in the United States and Canada, the risk was 3.2 times higher.

There were also differences in age groups for alcohol mortality between countries. In Argentina, Canada, Costa Rica and the U.S., the highest mortality rates occurred in individuals between 50 and 69 years of age. In Brazil, Ecuador and Venezuela, the highest mortality rates were seen in individuals between 40 and 49 years of age.

No Such Agency also gets info from offline computers:
…And so China wants international rules on computer spying. Hahaha. Spying for me but not for thee.
How about we all stop our governments from doing all that spying on us.

Bumper stickers: “Stop watching us”…

“The NSA: The only part of government that actually listens to you”.

And they’re already bringing criminal charges against political opponents in Wisconsin:
…Who said political authorities would ever respect free speech?