Bionic mosquito, the Reformation, and Freedom

Bionic Mosquito gives too much credit to the ideas in a new book that claims the Reformation, meaning the abandonment of loyalty to Rome, has an indirect consequence in the increase in state power today and the increased apostasy. (At least there is no outright accusation of apostasy here)

Norman Horn created the web site http://www.libertarianchristians.com.

We differ in a couple of very important doctrines, but we both agree with Laurence Vance, that no state is better than any state. And that the scriptures teach this. I think I accept this as a Biblical and godly doctrine. So there you have it. Church of Christ, Baptist (I think) and non-denominational but doctrinal, in agreement, not Catholic. In Libertarian Christian conferences, it’s a cross-section of all persuasion.

I think we need another Christian Reformation. The Reformation of Martin Luther and the Calvinists and the Puritans actually forced the Roman Catholic hierarchy back a little bit toward its early Christian days, but not enough. The embrace of the state of the bishops with Constantine did permanent damage to the organization and to some extent held back the spread of the Gospel. Christians went from the arena into the stands.

The dual existence of the Roman hierarchy and the various centralizing state hierarchies and its “dual allegiance” among the various subjects of both was not a true check on secular power. The Clergy made use of the state powers to enforce its material interests. And they were mostly material interests. Not quite back to the God-Emperor days of Rome, but almost, with lifetime indulgences sold for a building project. Not the kind of “cultural coherence” that incubates freedom.

The Reformation forced a reckoning of sorts in Rome. wikipedia says Pope John Paul II issued formal apologies to about a hundred historical figures and for acts, involving Galileo, Jews, the Inquisition, Crusades, and Catholics’ involvement with the African slave trade.

But it’s not all over. There are defectors from the Jesuit order that are exposing their dirty very un-libertarian strategies and practices to try to re-centralize their clerical power over “separated brethren”. Also one famous Jesuit helped popularize the Darwinism that was used by the most evil regimes in the 20th and now 21st centuries to justify their atrocities.

So much to say. The local bishop shut down a benefit for one work I volunteered for in one Latin country, claiming it was “against Catholic principles”.

The Reformation’s main message was “sola scriptura” while the Roman papacy claimed equal authority. Like almost every dissident movement, there is a requirement that there be “some of the unrighteous mammon” that are willing to help. Until such a time, there were burnings at the stake, heresy trials, and the like.

The discussion inevitably involves theology. Perfect corruption and Total Determinism as described by bionic are just that.

Another note: Europe before the Reformation was NOT “the longest-lasting and closest example of a decentralized, libertarian order we have seen in the west”. You can’t call it the closest to libertarian. The Dark Ages might be a better example. Ireland after St. Patrick but before Rome came and messed it up, too, even more so.


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