Atheists must make “assumption after assumption”. I make no assumption and came back to Christ by believing true science, facts, history, archaeology, and logic.
They have a giant god of the gaps that they worship and live in a fantasy universe. According to atheistic physicists, the universe is made up of 98 percent fantasy material. That’s so they can fill the gap between their atheism and the science. Dark matter + dark energy = 98 percent of the material of the universe, they say.
Their god of the gaps #2: Inflation. That’s the period physicists say they have to have in the first few seconds of the universe following the Big Bang to explain the current configuration of the visible universe.
Their god of the gaps #3: The Big Bang. The theory got its name from atheists ridiculing it because they did not believe it because it supported fiat Creation (meaning “God said”). They have no explanation whatsoever for what caused the Big Bang, or why the universe should be here. They have been forced to fantasize fairy tale worlds of infinite numbers of universes bursting spontaneously into existence.
Atheist god of the gaps #4: Big logic gap. They demand to know where God came from but they have no clue where the Big Bang came from. Hung on their own petard.
Atheist god of the gaps #5: Anthropic principle. They have no explanation as to why the Big Bang –or even gravity– could do the excruciating fine-tuning of the physical constants of the universe to balance out to a perfect environment for the development of life.
Atheist god of the gaps #6: Despite claims that the anthropic principle is a spontaneous accident of materialism, or claiming a circular reasoning tail-chasing logic that it’s only true because we exist [sic], they then leave off the ridiculous to yell foul just because Guillermo Gomez demonstrates in the Privileged Planet how the Earth has the optimal and best combination of conditions friendly for life and for sentient life (humans) WITH conditions conducive to the ability to observe the universe without the clutter of clouds including the location in our spiral galaxy.
And those are just a FEW principles from physics. Isaac Newton said the very fact that the universe follows consistent physical laws (an application of what they call the Copernican principle) is evidence of divine Creation.
Biology another time, starting with Darwin’s own falsifier of his own theory: fossils.
May 13, 2015 at 4:38 pm
Atheists must make “assumption after assumption”.
No, I don’t assume. Most monotheistic religions beg the question, which at its foundation, presupposes
“Dark matter + dark energy = 98 percent of the material of the universe, they say.”. That’s been demonstrated clearly. See Lawrence Krauss for more – I’m not a cosmologist or a physicists. No atheists I know uses this as evidence against god.
“That’s the period physicists say they have to have in the first few seconds of the universe following the Big Bang to explain the current configuration of the visible universe.” OK, that’s what would be predicted with the big bang – a theory that is enormously well-supported…certainly better supported than a man made of sand and a woman made from a rib
“They have no explanation whatsoever for what caused the Big Bang”. We could make something up if you want. That’s certainly what those Bronze age bible writers did
“They demand to know where God came from but they have no clue where the Big Bang came from.” Not really. It’s hard to posit either the universe or god without an infinite regress problem. Who created god? It could be that this universe emerged from a black hole in another universe, and that universe might have clearer answers. I don’t know that, but it’s plausible…maybe someday we will, and this infinite regress problem will go away. Until then, more evidence is needed
“They have no explanation as to why the Big Bang –or even gravity– could do the excruciating fine-tuning of the physical constants of the universe to balance out to a perfect environment for the development of life.”. I think this goes back to we don’t know. If reality were different, maybe life would be different. It doesn’t help to make stuff up and call it the absolute objective truth. Better to be tentative, I think.
“Isaac Newton said the very fact that the universe follows consistent physical laws (an application of what they call the Copernican principle) is evidence of divine Creation.” La Place proved him wrong.
May 14, 2015 at 2:32 pm
I posted a detailed critique of Trutherator’s post here: http://alchemyoftheword.net/12015/05/13/mind-the-god-of-the-gaps/
May 13, 2015 at 4:50 pm
Did you graduate high school?
May 14, 2015 at 2:35 am
Unfortunately, if it had bee a private school instead of a government school, I would know even more than I do about the real world.
State indoctrination is the dumber-downer.
May 13, 2015 at 9:49 pm
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May 13, 2015 at 9:53 pm
My attempt at rebuttal of your post http://alchemyoftheword.net/12015/05/13/mind-the-god-of-the-gaps/
May 14, 2015 at 2:34 am
Sure it’s the atheist that makes assumptions. Creation scientists don’t presume to know half as much as the Creation-deniers. They beg the question. The circularity of it all!
There you go again with the dark matter and dark energy, totally running away from the point. They say it’s “demonstrated” but it’s only “demonstrated” if you make the circular presumption of the Big Bang theories.
That’s what I mean. The Big Bang requires assumption after presumption after extra constructs and more props.
With no explanation whatsoever for any causal phenomenon for the nothing that existed nowhere and “before” there was time (or its euphemism “singularity”), they turn around and try to use the best argument they have: ridicule. It’s really ridiculous to watch.
For us there is no “infinite regress problem”. You’re up the wrong creek without a paddle man. The anti-Creation demagogue always wants to know where God came from and they have no clue where their universe came from. God did not have to “come from” anywhere, he is outside time and space and external to it. It’s oxymoronic to even ask the question for those who comprehend.
La Place proved nothing of the kind. It seems his attitude was prevarication. Besides many atheists have made the claim of proof.
Antony Flew made the same claim almost all his life, the most prominent of apologists for atheism. One of his last works was a book explaining why he now believed in God.
May 14, 2015 at 3:37 am
“if you make the circular presumption of the Big Bang theories.”
I think you misjudge how well you understand these concepts. In any event, no knowledge whatsoever is required to reject supernaturalism.
“That’s what I mean. The Big Bang requires assumption after presumption after extra constructs and more props.”
The big bang is well-supported by cosmic microwave background, along with observed phenomena, such as Hubble’s Law
“With no explanation whatsoever for any causal phenomenon for the nothing that existed nowhere and “before” there was time”. There are a lot of plausible ideas put forward…certainly as gravitational effects increase, time can slow down, so we can plausibly posit that “before the big bang” might be a non-sequitor. Who knows? Physicists have some pretty good ideas, but again, it’s not necessary to build upon these ideas in atheism, or specifically, rejection of modern monotheisms.
I’d encourage you to talk to a physicist phd about these things, because they’d have a lot more interesting stuff to say about cosmology than I do.
“God did not have to “come from” anywhere, he is outside time and space and external to it”.
That is a special pleading fallacy. How do you know god is outside of space and time and external to it? Has he told you that? Or are you just making that up?
If the answer is ‘he must, because he created the universe’, then it raises the question, how do you know, and who created him? How do you know god doesn’t have a boss who created him and gave him supernatural capacity to create the universe? Maybe you’re worshipping god’s lieutenant.
“La Place proved nothing of the kind”. Yes he did. Newton couldn’t figure out how orbital pattern was maintained without celestial intervention. La Place solved the problem without necessitating supernatural intervention
“Antony Flew made the same claim almost all his life…”. He became a deist, as I understand…maybe a pantheist like Spinoza. I called myself a deist for about 8 years, because I couldn’t get past the complexity of the universe, and what might have cause it…but the answer of “supernatural forces” is non-sensical, too (it commits the special pleading fallacy), so I call myself an atheist now. Flew was certainly not a christian, nor a practitioner of any monotheism. He had the same problem I had. *But, an idea’s popularity, or the people who accept it, has nothing to do with whether the idea is correct or not.
I’m sort of done here. I don’t mean to proselytize, because that’s not my thing, but someone posted this blog post on twitter, and I felt compelled to respond. Happy trails – if you’re right, I guess your reward will be to get to see all us godless heathens burning in hell for trillions of years.
May 14, 2015 at 10:32 am
More response to the last comment, with more to come later:
https://trutherator.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/more-of-atheisms-errors-of-logic/
May 14, 2015 at 1:57 pm
You make several huge assumptions; that the bible is correct, that the writers of the books didn’t lie, that no one has altered the books over time, and that everyone is interpreting them correctly.
Most of these are either proven false or moot.
You have zero basis for the assumptions you make.