If those guys don’t exist, then who are these other guys that fit the description?

I don’t know why Lew Rockwell decided to re-publish this disinformation piece, trying to claim that the Iluminati don’t exist:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/04/mike-jay/the-illuminati/

It’s too late, guys. The Internet has too much self-consistent information. It’s like North Korea trying to bottle up Christianity. Won’t work. Jesus warned us all that what is whispered in corners will be shouted from the rooftops.

Yeah, Stalin is outed. Woodrow Wilson is outed. The dollar bill, with all the symbols and symbolism, screams out the truth publicly. The Federal Reserve has implemented the most devious of what used to “conspiracy theories”.

I have met defectors from this group. I have been invited to consider joining it.

The defectors have confirmed for us that the contents of the saddlebag of the courier who was struck down by lightning (literally) had to do with plans for the French Revolution, among other things… The article itself even admits it was exposed in Bavaria, where the lightning incident occurred.

Very pretty, saying Weishaupt “appeared to have done little beyond producing a series of morose and self-justifying memoirs of his adventures”… Since defectors have told us that the Rothschild patriarch funded him..

Also very funny, all the pictures that illustrate the truth of your “myth”. There is the symbol of the “owl of Minerva”, but then what is the owl on the dollar bill? Just a coincidence, I’m sure, just like the patterns of 13 throughout.

Mike Jay uses the word “implausible” to describe some of Robinson’s denunciations of the occult rituals occurring in Europe at the time, but also intersperses pcitures of a Freemason initiation. The oaths that have been publicized by former Masons might also be called “implausible”. Like a friend who said his boss, a Mason, who told him that they don’t drink out of real skulls anymore, just fake ones.

The contempt for Robinson shows in the discussion about chemistry. Maybe the author did not know that his high school history flipped the Copernicus and Galileo debates backwards, since it was the mainstream “secular” scientists of the day that rained propaganda upon the Church, taking its Aristotle-based (meaning, secular Greek-based) astronomy and converting it into a Christian doctrine. Kind of like the modern Darwinians are trying to do with their “Darwin Day”.

George Washington’s history with the Mason’s has an obligatory visit to the web page. But left out are the comments uttered by him later in his life, shared by former Masons and Illuminati, that it had been many years since he had “last darkened the door” of a Masonic lodge, and one Illuminati defector said he had abandoned them because of their influence.

A textbook I perused once in a library painted Washington’s refusal to Thomas Payne’s demands to help the Fench Revolution as a bad thing.

I don’t think the Founders were such larger-than-life Christian saints as they are described by some, but there are certainly big differences in how the two revolutions on either side of the Atlantic played out. Benjamin Franklin warned Thomas Payne against publishing his rants against Christianity, because of the harm it would cause.

>>In an overheated political milieu where accusations of treason were hurled from both sides, Proofs of a Conspiracy was seized on eagerly by the Federalists as evidence of the hidden agenda that lurked behind fine-sounding slogans such as democracy, the abolition of slavery and the rights of man.

The rights of man have been a Christian cause from the time of the earliest followers of Christ (see his parables and his violent attack on fraudulent money changing thieves, the Magna Carta, and the invoking of the Creator in the Declaration, and today’s libertarian Christians). The abolition of slavery has been part and parcel with this tendency.

Bad guys have invoked the name of Christ in shallow fashion, sure, just as Communist parties call themselves “democratic” and “republic”. Show us the ones who act like they really believe in what Christ taught. A good rule of thumb taught us by one “wiser than Solomon”: “By their fruits ye shall know them”. Some people don’t let that sensible rule get into their thinking, though. I saw a video once from a debate between Dinesh D’Souza and Christopher Hitchens, in which Hitchens blamed Christianity for Stalin’s genocides and mass murders and other brutality!

So now we have a Federal Reserve cooperating with a new clique of rich that spouts slogans reminiscent of the brutal French Revolution, including the “freedom from religion” part, wanting to impose penalties for following one’s Christian faith, and ever expanding “religion-free” zones along with “free speech zones”. The free speech zones, so-called, are surrounded by much bigger areas where, ergo, free speech is NOT permitted.

Mr. Jay also states that Alexander Hamilton’s Federalist Party used the “Proofs of a Conspiracy” book about the ill-intentioned secret group to denounce the “hidden agenda” behind the slogans they did not like. This is very interesting, since he was the champion of the central bank of his day, a monster of the conspiracy of Jekyll Island, that we all know about now, that has America now accelerating toward its collapse.

(By the way, I don’t remember Thomas Jefferson demanding the guillotine for nobles and Christians, and he certainly opposed getting involved in troubles elsewhere. Probably to the chagrin of interventionist Thomas Paine.)

Today’s similar subset of the rich and powerful does not even try that hard to hide its funding relationship with the most high-sounding slogans. George Soros is the most visible name, but the Rockefeller Foundation very publicly was present at one of the larger gatherings of Students for a Democratic Society, and the other foundations still lurk in such matters behind the scene.

With this next excerpt, maybe they haven’t learned from Brad Stoker’s mistake in claiming that if there were any truth to the stories, then where are the defectors and former members? This excerpt only refers to vague “evidence”, which of course doesn’t count if you’re having to use the name of John Birch and the word “isolationist” as an argument against something:

After Robison’s death following a final medical crisis in 1805 his Edinburgh colleague, the pioneering geologist John Playfair, wrote a respectful memoir that focused on his scientific achievements but was unable to avoid mention of the work for which he was best remembered. ‘The alarm excited by the French revolution’, Playfair suggested tactfully, ‘produced in Mr. Robison a degree of credulity which was not natural to him’. It was a credulity, he stressed, that had been shared by many who were unable to believe that the revolution had been a genuine mass movement reacting to the oppression of a tyrannical regime; they had clung to their belief that it must have been orchestrated by a small cell of fanatics, and that the lack of evidence for any such conspiracy was itself evidence for the conspirators’ cunning in concealing their operations from public view

Fact is I have come across a lot of this “evidence” that Mr. Jay (by surrogate quote) implies does not exist. Much of it has been documented by verifiable facts. He must know about them since this article seems so well-researched, or at least well-compiled.

I have met several “defectors” in person, have been invited to join the present-day version, a member of my family has been in one of their houses. To call it a “myth” and to spin such an essay using half the truth to debunk the more important considerations, no wonder we who actually think for ourselves may be more skeptical than this disinformation insinuates, unmoved by the thought of being regarded as nuts by the unthinking.

“Buy the truth, and sell it not” says the Bible. Good advice. Don’t give it up for passing benefit.

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