One student prays, atheist claims “religious bullying”. Poor thing, let me count the ways…

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Isaac Newton (1642-1727) (Credit: Wikipedia)

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Here’s the link:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/28/atheist-graduation-prayer-its-religious-bullying/

Poor guy, right. The anthropic principle, inverted fossil strata, polystrate fossils, the very long list of quotes from darwinian believer scientists that call evolution a “fairy tale for adults”, a “scam”, that it does not meet the traditional requirements of “the scientific method, these are all robbed from the texts, thrown out with God from inside. Students get failing grades on papers for believing the Bible on origins, for believing the Bible on homosexuality, for believing the Bible on history.

Isaac Newton is even bullied and his reasons for doing science are not allowed in a science class. What he thought about science and what it proved are not allowed. What Isaac Newton thought was his most important work is not allowed.

I’ve been subjected to more religious bullying for being a Bible-believing Christian in one day than this kid will ever get in his lifetime for being atheist, take it to the bank. One place was so bad, where they put me and three other contractors in one conference room. One New Yorker and a Russian played one-up-joke tag on me when the topic came up –mind you I never push when somebody’s not interested but I do reply even some flippant questions when asked.

I just pointed out one day how it was officially atheist regimes that had done more mass genocide in one century than all the monotheistic regimes in history combined. And pointed to Hitler‘s reference to a religion that was so dangerous that they had to kill them all. (And he did point to the religion, and he said Christianity was the “bastard stepchild” of Judaism and he would wipe it out too).

The other guy I think was Jewish and must have gotten so offended at those guys that he must have told somebody, because the development manager delivered a strong rebuke and warning. It slowed down but never stopped.

We are told we cannot set up in front of a government-funded school that teaches that our religion is wrong.

We are told that we cannot thank our God for our blessings.

We are told that a five-year old kindergarten student is expelled for SILENTLY bowing his head in prayer over every meal in one place (where they had to be forced to apologize to the parents by legal action).

We are told that the money we pay in taxes or that our employers or where we buy from have to pay in taxes to support teachings that tell our children that their religion is wrong.

We are told that when we share our faith and speak out loud we are hating others.

We are told that our Bible is racist, misogynist, genocidal, and that our fellow believers in the past were too.

We cannot escape the news feeds that tell us every stupid insult against Christians that proselytizers of militant anti-theism like Bill Maher and Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens can think of, epithets of stupidity, ignorance, and dangerous they say. Therefore, they say, it is a form of child abuse to teach our children what we believe.

We are subjected to the most ridiculous and idiotic “theories” of history than no historian believes and whose purpose it is to tell more lies about Christ and Christianity.

And we are the bullyers? Hello? What’s next? They’ll accuse us of war crimes because Christopher Hitchens said Christianity was to blame for the mass genocides of atheists like Mao Tse Tung and Josef Stalin??

Who are the insane ones here?

Jeremiah 2:27

Saying to a stock, Thou art my father; and to a stone, Thou hast brought me forth: for they have turned their back unto me, and not their face: but in the time of their trouble they will say, Arise, and save us.

 

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6 Responses to “One student prays, atheist claims “religious bullying”. Poor thing, let me count the ways…”

  1. trutherator Says:

    Atheism is also a “religiosity”. Not only that, it involves a return to many pagan beliefs. I don’t call a ten-year old “atheist” as rebellious or ignorant, but it comes from somewhere. Jeremiah 2 addresses one ancient pagan dogma, that man descended from animals and life came from rocks. Nothing new under the sun.

    I was an atheist once, probably for the same reasons. We were only taught one side of the equation in government indoctrination centers. We did not learn enough about evolution or history to avoid the secularism trap, like the anthropic principle, polystrate fossils, inverted geologic columns, inverted fossil layers, the completely digitized nature and completely symbolic language of DNA (that convinced atheist thinker #1 Antony Flew to renounce atheism), or, wait for it, the admission of Stephen Gould that the fossil record is 100% statis (“equilibrium”) and Zero% change (“punctuated”). His “punctuated equilibrium” being the first scientific theory that I know of that offers the complete lack of evidence (“punctuation”) as evidence for itself.

  2. Introspections of a Cluttered Mind Says:

    Freedom of beliefs are one thing; I myself share the belief with Christopher Hitchens of Anti-theism. However, just because one holds the right to a belief, does not immunize that individual/belief from ridicule.

  3. trutherator Says:

    No it doesn’t, Mr. Cluttered Mind. It’s a good thing, because I like making fun of blind faith in pagan dogmas like darwinism, and like I said above, pointing out that “punctuated equilibrium” is the latest fad among the bitter clingers to that ancient pagan doctrine, and that its strongest “evidence” is the lack of evidence for it. The forensics are all statis and no punctuation!

    That’s why I say ridicule is the favorite argument of anti-theists, because they have no forensics for it, no science. Notwithstanding the few who have tried to actually address theist arguments like Antony Flew, the former academic champion of atheists, who paid for his intellectual integrity by recognizing that DNA blows atheism out of play in the real world.

    I like to ridicule the claim that darwinism is based on “the scientific method”. When has it ever been put in a lab and had successful repeated results? Oh yeah, breeding programs. Guawwww! Farmers have done breeding programs for 6,000 years! Big new discovery!

    Saying to a stock, Thou art my father; and to a stone, Thou hast brought me forth: for they have turned their back unto me, and not their face: but in the time of their trouble they will say, Arise, and save us.–Jer. 2:27

  4. Introspections of a Cluttered Mind Says:

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    Ed: My answers to this comment from a confused “Cluttered Mind” was long enough to merit a new blog post found here:
    https://trutherator.wordpress.com/2013/06/04/answers-to-the-same-old-tired-anti-theist-arguments-against-the-bible/
    ]

    It is interesting that out of the entire library of information on evolution you picked out the Punctuated Equilibrium hypothesis–which is not supported by the majority of evolutionary biologist–in an attempt to prove your point. If you wish to claim that evolution is not supported by science (which it is no matter where your beliefs lay, they don’t change the facts) then we only need to look as far as a few examples.

    The Lizards of Pod Mrcaru. A species of lizard named Podarcis sicula, which enjoys an insect based diet, occupies an islet in the Mediterranean called Pod Kopiste. In 1971 a group of experimenters transported five pairs of these lizards to the neighboring islet Pod Mrcaru where none of these lizards were found. In 2008 another group of scientist visited the islet of Pod Mrcaru. The scientist found a flourishing population of lizards which DNA analysis confirmed to be Podarcis sicula. Not only did these lizards flourish, but they showed a variety of changes in their biological figures. Due to the lack of insects on Pod Mrcaru, these groups of Podarcis sicula were forced to live off a vegetarian diet. This new diet caused their bodies to adjust in different ways. Their heads increased in size: longer, wider, and taller. This change accompanies a vegetarian diet due to the increase in strength needed to grind plant cells which are stiffened with cellulose. Another intriguing change in the Pod Mrcaru Podarcis sicula is the development of a valve called a Caecal valve. In many carnivores this valve is connected to the Caecum; a gut that houses bacteria, acting like a fermentation chamber allowing the vegetarian food to be more easily digested. These changes were only represented around nineteen generations.

    I have a feeling that this will not be a good enough example for you, as your beliefs seem to be set in stone. If you would like another interesting example (I hope that you are at least open minded enough to research this and learn a little bit about it) search for Lenski’s E-Coli evolutionary experiment. That is an experiment that involves forty-five thousand generations of evolution in the lab (where you stated it never happened before). If you wish to look for any type of blind faith to ridicule, you only need to look as far as your own bible. There is not one shred of evidence for any supernatural myth proclaimed in the bible. If you wish to deny evolution then I sure hope you do not go to the doctors to receive vaccines. Evolution is a proven theory, you can close your eyes and cover your ears all you want, it does not make you correct.

    I want to now address some of your other claims in your original post:

    “We are told that when we share our faith and speak out loud we are hating others.”

    Yes, when your religion preaches hate any morally decent person would speak out against it. Spewing that LBGT individuals don’t deserve rights (or as the Westboro Baptist church members like to proclaim—and one can argue that they are more faithful then you to their holy book—that they should be slaughtered). I guarantee if a Muslim individual stood up above a crowd of others he/she would be would be treated with abhorrence. Just because you think that your religion is the one that is true does not abstain you from criticism.

    “We are told that a five-year old kindergarten student is expelled for SILENTLY bowing his head in prayer over every meal in one place (where they had to be forced to apologize to the parents by legal action).”

    Can you provide a source? I can’t seem to find any evidence of this happening anywhere.

    “We are told that the money we pay in taxes or that our employers or where we buy from have to pay in taxes to support teachings that tell our children that their religion is wrong.”

    I highly doubt teachers are going from class to class in schools hunting for children with religious parents (to call a child a Christian child is wrong, not child abuse, but wrong; let the child decide for themselves what they wish to believe) only to preach to them that their religion is wrong. If they are doing this then they should face consequences for it. The separation of church and state clearly states why religious institutions should not live within government programs.

    “We are told that our Bible is racist, misogynist, genocidal, and that our fellow believers in the past were too.”

    Only true ignorance can explain why an individual would believe it is not these things.

    “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)

    “This is what the Lord Almighty says… ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Samuel 15:3)

    “Do not allow a sorceress to live.” (Exodus 22:18)

    “Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” (Psalm 137:9)

    “So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, ‘Get up; let’s go.’ But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.” (Judges 19:25-28)

    “In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” (Romans 1:27)

    ‘Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.’ (Genesis 22:2)
    “Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.” (Ephesians 5:22)

    “Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)

    To conclude, here are some helpful links to information about evolution. I hope you sincerely take the time to research the topic; it is quite enlightening, much more than a burning bush.

    This one is about misconceptions about evolution, probably the most important link in my reply; it even touches on your punctuated evolution claim.

    http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-misconceptions.html

    Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History

    http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence

    A video from Jerry Coyne on evidence for evolution. Get passed the heathen Richard Dawkins’ introduction.

  5. trutherator Says:

    Ed: My answers to the above comment from confused “Cluttered Mind” was long enough to merit a new blog post found here:
    https://trutherator.wordpress.com/2013/06/04/answers-to-the-same-old-tired-anti-theist-arguments-against-the-bible/

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