ATF: Biggest American gun dealer for the drug cartels

I watched some of the CSPAN coverage of the ATF gun-runner operation where they sold a giant haul of weapons to Mexican cartels and a border patrol agent was killed with one of them.

And there is a lot of disinformation and CYA out there.

But different agency heads and supervisors are pointing fingers, confusion tactics.

http://thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/07/robert-farago/atf-death-watch-30-atf-dir-melson-shifts-gunwalker-blame-to-fbi-dea/

http://tinyurl.com/3cbn7af

Quote: …Once again, I feel compelled to point out that there was no Iron River. No significant flow of weapons from U.S. gun dealers to Mexican drug cartels. U.S. government sanctioned arms sales “seeping” to cartels is, was and will be the major source of all U.S. manufactured weaponry that ends up in the hands of the Mexican drug cartels.

Thet also have a snippet from a stratfor report:

According to the [GAO] report [based on data provided by the ATF], some 30,000 firearms were seized from criminals by Mexican officials in 2008. Out of these 30,000 firearms, information pertaining to 7,200 of them, (24 percent) was submitted to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) for tracing. Of these 7,200 guns, only about 4,000 could be traced by the ATF, and of these 4,000, some 3,480 (87 percent) were shown to have come from the United States.

This means that the 87 percent figure comes from the number of weapons submitted by the Mexican government to the ATF that could be successfully traced and not from the total number of weapons seized by the Mexicans or even from the total number of weapons submitted to the ATF for tracing. The 3,480 guns positively traced to the United States equals less than 12 percent of the total arms seized in 2008 and less than 48 percent of all those submitted by the Mexican government to the ATF for tracing.

stratfor has my respect. Before the Afghan invasion they predicted that the USA could take out the Tailban, scatter the al Qaeda, declare they had punished the bad guys and behave or else, and then go home, having made their point for the world. Bad guys humiliated, end of story, story goes away.

BUT if they stayed around and kept on going after Taliban and al Qaeda they would pump them up in the eyes of their recruiting base and give them undeserved glamor.

This whole operation was meant to go under the radar and out of sight so they could get a way to confiscate guns and give the useful idiots another day to say guns are to blame for criminals.


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